That new Flip Mino HD is pretty slim, sure, but it’s no Trio PenCam HD, a skinny new hi-def camcorder its manufacturers have crowned “the world’s smallest HD camcorder.” The device measures 1.4 by 0.8 by inches and weighs 2.9 ounces. It can shoot video in 1280 by 720 at 30 frames per second. Also, unlike a handful of pocket camcorders (Pure Digital and Creative, I’m looking at you), this thing takes still pictures with a 5-MP camera.

The Trio PenCam features 3X digital zoom, 4GB of built-in memory, and HDMI out. It’s also got a built-in MP3 player and a downright microscopic 1.1-inch OLED display. It’ll run you $149.99 at Amazon.

Flip’s followup to the successful, caveman-easy Mino HD is fundamentally the same product, slightly better. The improvements are welcome, but there are still some issues I wish Flip would address.

The original Mino HD was one of the simplest, easiest-to-use pocket cams out there. Its video quality was nothing to write home about (and paled in comparison to, say, the Kodak Zi8), but it sold boatloads based on its good looks and respectable performance. So what does the new Mino HD bring to the table?

What’s New

The new Mino HD definitely feels better in the hand than its predecessor. It’s only marginally smaller (about 1.5 millimeters thinner, same width and height) but the upgrade to aluminum from glossy plastic makes it feel much more solid and expensive. The other improvements are welcome as well—the new screen is both larger (2 inches compared to 1.5) and significantly sharper, and it’s now packing 8GB of internal memory, twice that of the first Mino HD. That 8GB of memory allows for about two hours of 720p recording. Also new is an HDMI-out jack for sharing videos on HD screens, and it also boasts a faster processor (I didn’t see a difference in performance, but Flip says battery life is improved).

What’s Unchanged, but Shouldn’t Be

As it’s packing the same sensor as the first Mino HD, this new version shares the same strengths and suffers from the same flaws: Good in solid lighting and close-ups, but noisy in low-light and choppy while panning. It still can’t take stills, there’s no optical zoom, and there’s no image stabilizer. Also unchanged are those damn touch-sensitive buttons. I accidentally hit the “Play” touch-button several times because you don’t have to depress an actual, tactile button to make commands, which is super annoying. Tactile buttons would be a lot more accurate and result in less accidental presses.

As always, we should mention that the days of dedicated pocket cams like the Mino HD are numbered. They’re surrounded on all sides, with the iPod Nano hitting them from the low-end and smartphones hitting them from the high. Since convergence is already killing PMPs, we don’t see this kind of gadget lasting all that much longer. That being said…

The Flip Mino HD is a solid choice for a pocket cam, since it’s sort of the distillation of what the pocket cam category aims for: It’s dead simple, to a fault sometimes, takes decent but not amazing video, and is sleek and pocketable. We’d really have liked to see some improvements to the Mino HD’s sensor (as well as the merciless execution of those touch-buttons), but overall it’s still a pretty decent cam. This new version sells for $230, while the older 4GB model drops to $200—and we’d say the improvements are worth the extra $30 if you’re torn between the two. The Flip Mino HD is available now.

Solid-feeling aluminum case


Doubled memory, bigger and better screen, and HDMI-out are welcome additions


Dead simple UI, but it lacks more advanced features


Video quality is okay, but unchanged from last-gen


Touch-sensitive buttons seem designed purely to infuriate

Cisco-owned Pure Digital today unveiled a refresh of the Flip Mino HD. The latest version of the ever-popular pocket camcorder features a larger screen, increased capacity, and a new brushed metal design. The camera also packs a new version of the company’s proprietary FlipShare software.

The new Flip Mino HD now features 8GB of an-board memory, which should give users roughly two hours of recording time, according to the company (I imagine this is under the VGA setting). The screen size (one of our major complaints about the camera’s predecessor), has been increased from 1.5- to 2-inches. The new Flip also features an HDMI jack (a feature now found on most other HD pocket camcorders). The new software lets user upload videos directly to Facebook.

The new camera still carries a relatively lofty sticker price at $229. It’s predecessor has been priced at a more competitive $199.

A brand spanking new filing with the FCC shows a Flip Video-branded RF remote control, produced by Foxconn, which frankly raises more questions than it answers. Looking at its robust size, which is comparable to that of the Flip Ultra Video HD, we can be pretty sure this isn’t meant to remotely control anything that’s out at the moment. Head honcho Jonathan Kaplan has already expressed a definite interest in expanding the brand, and Cisco’s acquisition of Pure Digital was said to be “key” to its strategy of expanding its presence in the “media-enabled home.” So, given the parent company’s somewhat unsuccessful history of building media hubs, and the simplified control scheme that just screams for an on-screen menu, this may well be the prelude to a new Flip-branded whole-home DVR setup, an idea that Cisco discussed over the summer. Or it could be something entirely different — we just know it’s something.

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The gadget: A direct followup to the excellent Zi6 HD pocket cam, the Zi8 adds a 1080p 30fps mode, a lithium ion battery, image stabilization, HDMI-out and a mic jack. It’s restyled too, and less pudgy.

The price: $180

The verdict: Kodak’s first foray into pocket camcorders set them ahead of the pack, at least for a while—a trick they’ve pulled off again with the Zi8. They’ve stolen back the top spot not with video quality—though it is impressive—but with a few obvious features that, until now, hadn’t trickled down to this price point.

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First though, the core improvements: This Zi’s undergone a full hardware redesign which, once you peel the ugly, feature-touting sticker off the front, feels more modern, more solid, and more, well, designed than its lumpy predecessor. The screen is way, way sharper, which makes the whole camera, despite its similar interface and button layout, truly feel like a new piece of hardware. HDMI output works instantly and smoothly, and the microphone-in jack pulls concerts and noisy environments into the Things The Zi8 Can Do list. The hard, flip-out USB plug has been replaced with a rubberized flexible one, which makes life easier for situations where you don’t have much clearance on a USB port. Oh, and the battery—a Li-Ion slab replaces the old model’s rechargeable AAs.

The Zi8’s ballyhooed feature is its 30fps 1080p video recording, which, along with a new 5-megapixel photo option, joins the 720p (30fps and 60fps) and WVGA video modes of the Zi6. The added resolution is technically impressive, sure, but it’s also sort of excessive, and mostly unnoticeable. People have a hard enough time distinguishing between 1080p and 720p video when it’s professionally produced and displayed on a high-end screen; the Zi8 is still very much a pocket camera, meaning that the video isn’t quite crisp or vivid enough to gain much from the added pixels. Cameras like this are meant for uploading quality-sapping video sites—something the Windows-only software makes dead-simple—not Blu-ray discs.

That’s not to say the raw video quality is bad—far from it. It’s noticeably better than the Zi6, and a new, larger sensor boosts quality at all resolutions, especially in low light. Again, this is still a pocket camcorder, so expect some noise in dimmer situations. That said, the noise is subtle and tolerable, and a far sight less crappy than most of its direct competitors.

The reason the Zi8’s video really stands out is image stabilization. This is a much bigger deal than it might sound, because it accomplishes something that might not be immediately obvious: it cuts down on shimmering—that queasy rippling effect you get whenever you move a cheap camcorder too quickly. It’s still there, but with less microtwitches and jitters, it’s way less apparent. In addition, the Zi6’s macro mode makes a reappearance on the Zi8, but it’ a lot more usable, since its field of focus has grown since the Zi6, which only gave you an inch or so of leeway before things got fuzzy. On top of it all, the Zi8’s lens is wider. Some people might miss the extra optical zoom a little bit, but I found the wider angle much easier to film with.

The photo mode is acceptable, but not at the level of even a entry-level point-and-shoot, and prone to blurry shots, since the record button is a little stiff, and you’re usually not holding the camera in an especially stable way. But in fitting with the ethos of this whole genre of device, it’ll usually do just fine.

The takeaway here is that the Zi8, though still firmly a budget camcorder in terms of both price and image quality, is a device you’ll be comfortable relying on in more situations than the old model, or for that matter, any other pocket cam on the market today. You’ll worry less about how well-lit your subjects are; about just how macro you want to go; about keeping your hand steady enough to make your footage not look like frantic cellphone clip from a disaster scene; about how loud your surroundings will be. It’s not going to replace a real camcorder in all situations, nor is meant to—but for a lot of people, it’ll be more than good enough. At $180, that’s nothing to smirk at. [Kodak]

Sharp, clean video in bright lighting, respectable video in low light

Antishake

Slimmer profile

More versatile USB Plug

Li-Ion Battery

More plugs!

No internal storage

Software is convenient, but not that powerful