Treo Pro up and vanishes from Palm website

Well, this was probably bound to happen someday, but we still can’t not sniffle a bit… the Treo Pro seems to have disappeared from Palm.com. The site has of course been mainly trafficking Palm’s webOS devices — the Pre and Pixi — as of late, but until very recently, it still listed its last non-webOS device, the Window Mobile Treo Pro, a much older phone first outed in August of 2008. If you’re hell bent, of course, there are still plenty of places to get one of these bad boys, so we’re not going to sound the death knell yet — but it will be missed.

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Treo Pro up and vanishes from Palm website originally appeared on Engadget on Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:47:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Engadget Podcast 180 – 01.22.2010

Plug into the latest Engadget Podcast for the lowdown on all the hottest, dirtiest, nastiest Apple Tablet rumors! Too hot for text! If you don’t get down with the Crowd from Cupertino you can also feast your ears on sultry Finnish imports, steamy webOS reviews, and yeah, even some wild and wooly Windows Mobile wishes! FREE for a limited time only. Featuring Chris “Zazzle” Ziegler. Void where prohibited.

Hosts: Joshua Topolsky, Nilay Patel, Paul Miller
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Producer: Trent Wolbe
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01:50 – Nokia N900 review
13:40 – Nokia Ovi Maps with free turn-by-turn navigation hands-on
13:49 – Nokia offering free turn-by-turn navigation on smartphones globally (updated)
19:32 – Palm Pre Plus (and Pixi Plus) review
29:40 – Palm Pre Plus shows off multitasking upgrade with 50 simultaneous apps (video)
31:10 – The Engadget Show – 005: Google’s Erick Tseng, CES wrap-up, WiDi, AR.Drone, and more!
31:15 – Next Android version will be called Froyo, says Erick Tseng
31:37 – Windows Mobile 7 megarumor: LG Apollo and HTC Obsession running flagship ‘720p’ specs, Zune Phone Experience
32:40 – Microsoft’s Twitter chatter suggests Danger is up to something — Pink drawing near?
34:10 – It’s on: Apple holding January 27th event to show off its ‘latest creation’
36:00 – Apple rumor roundup: pipe dreams, Lala’s role and Verizon’s iPhone 4G
38:00 – WSJ: Apple tablet to have books, games, music, TV, will make sandwiches
40:00 – Apple Tablet rumor roundup: summer 2010 edition
42:00 – Apple rumor roundup: future of media edition
45:00 – WSJ: Apple and HarperCollins negotiating e-book deal for tablet
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Engadget Podcast 180 – 01.22.2010 originally appeared on Engadget on Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:46:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Windows Mobile 7 rumors coalesce around Q4 launch, MWC announcement

While DigiTimes isn’t our go-to source for all things Microsoft, the Taiwanese tattler does have its finger on the pulse of the Taiwanese / Chinese manufacturing juggernaut. As such, we expect it to be privy to information related to HTC, Acer, and ASUS handsets. So lean in close when it cites “sources familiar to Microsoft’s roadmap” in claiming a September 2010 release of Windows Mobile 7 to its handset partners — the same month pegged by that LG leak last week. That should translate into consumer availability by the end of Q4, or Q1 2011 at the latest. As it’s stated, WinMo7 will bring an improved interface, browsing, and multimedia experience with integrated support for Zune, Xbox Live, and Silverlight; nothing we haven’t heard before (and long wished for). DigiTimes claims that only English and “common European languages” will be available initially with Asian localization coming in 2011. Oh, and it’ll be announced at Mobile World Congress.

One thing’s clear: the rapid convergence of the rumor mill around dates and feature sets has us very excited about Microsoft’s chances at resurrecting its smartphone soul in time for the holidays. As such, we’ll be at Mobile World Congress in force to bring you the full story starting February 15th. It’s going to be good.

Windows Mobile 7 rumors coalesce around Q4 launch, MWC announcement originally appeared on Engadget on Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:57:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Garmin-Asus Nuvifone M10 emerges on Taiwanese pre-order page

It was only yesterday that we heard of this WinMo 6.5.3 beastie, and already Taiwanese ladies and gents can sign up to own one, pending a February 6 delivery. The new pre-order page confirms our earlier indications of a 3.5-inch WVGA display and 5 megapixel camera, while adding the knowledge of 512MB of both RAM and ROM, plus MicroSD storage expandability. A relatively low end Qualcomm MSM 7227 600MHz CPU drives the show here, and we’re told a spare battery (1,500mAh by default) or a car holder for navigation also come as part of the 13,900 TWD ($435) package. So, are you excited or what?

Garmin-Asus Nuvifone M10 emerges on Taiwanese pre-order page originally appeared on Engadget on Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:02:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Garmin-Asus taking wraps off first Android gear, M10 WinMo phone at MWC

It might be happening a little later than they’d originally hoped, but Garmin — through its partnership in Garmin-Asus — should finally be unveiling some Android-based phones pretty shortly in an effort to kickstart the firm’s weak showing thus far in the dog-eat-dog handset world. The VP of the mobile device business over at ASUS is talking up the joint venture’s 2010 plans this week, saying that it’ll show its first Android product at MWC next month with the hope of striking a pretty even balance between Android and WinMo shipments in the long term (no mention of the G60’s proprietary platform, interestingly). What’s more, they want to push a solid million units this year, and they’ll be looking to reach that goal by building somewhere between 4 and 5 models — at least one of which is likely destined for T-Mobile USA, as far as we can tell. Android isn’t the only thing on the docket for these guys at MWC, though: they’ll also be showing the M10, allegedly running Windows Mobile 6.5.3 with a 3.5-inch resistive display and a 5 megapixel camera with a retail price a little over $400. Finally, there are plans in the works for a TD-SCDMA phone for China Mobile that’d be available toward the tail end of the year — so all things considered, these guys might finally have a shot of making a dent in the market for once.

Garmin-Asus taking wraps off first Android gear, M10 WinMo phone at MWC originally appeared on Engadget on Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:51:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Source: Windows Mobile 7 Handsets Coming Late 2010, Will Support 6.x Apps

Another week, another treat from our mole: Windows Mobile 7, which we should see for the first time at Mobile World Congress next month, is intended for release before the holiday season of 2010—not 2011. And there’s more.

For a release to follow a debut by six months or more isn’t unprecedented for Microsoft, where long public beta testing periods have become the norm, if not the rule. And a late 2010 release is in line with older estimates, which have been recently derailed by claims that it would be pushed off until 2011. Even more interesting, though, is that the OS still seems to be in a state of flux. Here’s what we’ve heard:

• It’ll be shown at MWC, but don’t expect Microsoft to give a firm release date estimate—they’re not ready for that yet. LG slipped up and hinted at a September release for their first Windows Mobile 7 phones, but it sounds doubtful that anyone’s release dates are set in stone—and they’ll likely have to toe Microsoft’s line, since with WinMo 6.5, Microsoft’s been enforcing a hard, unified launch date for Windows Phones; something they never really did before.

• Contrary to Eldar Murtazin’s report that Windows Mobile 6.x apps won’t work on the OS, we hear that they will. Our info implies a promise of support though—not necessarily out-of-the-box, native compatibility—which could mean anything from an emulator (like webOS’s Classic app) to a set of streamlined porting tools for devs. Regardless, this isn’t really the kind of thing someone could deduce from playing with a device for a few minutes, which is what Eldar appears to have done.

• Speaking of apps, we should expect an SDK for the new OS to be available as early as June, giving devs a little lead time to have apps ready for the new OS. This implies that the platform will be markedly different than 6.x, which pretty much everyone has been assuming all along anyway.

• It doesn’t look quite like any of the renders or mockups we’ve seen floating around. There are some aesthetic similarities to some of the early renders, but they’re not pronounced enough to say that it looks like anything that’s already been “leaked.”

• The new input system, which we initially called “Natal-like,” is more of a complex gesture system than a whole new way of interacting with the phone. There is a motion sensing element, but it’s a close-quarters, proximity-sensing type thing, and only used for certain gestures: pinch zooming, rotation, twisting, etc. This was also described to us as resembling a tech demo, so it may not be a banner feature for the OS, but rather something that Microsoft is toying with behind the scenes.

• It’s being kept secret in a way that’s somewhat rare for Microsoft. It’s only being shown to people immediately concerned with the project within the company, and evidently to a small group of journalists as well. It’s Zune-HD-level secrecy, which is to say, pretty high.

That’s all we’ve got for now, and with Mobile World Congress creeping closer by the minute, it’d be safe to assume we’ll learn more before the big unveil. We’ll keep digging, but as always, if you know anything, let us know.

Early Windows Mobile 7 build gets handled, incompatible with previous WinMo apps?

In case you weren’t aware, Mobile-review’s Eldar Murtazin is somewhat of a living legend around these parts. The Russian-borne phone guru manages to get his hands on an ample number of then-unreleased devices and juicy scoops — but he’s also been known to get things dead wrong from time, so keep that in mind. This time he might’ve just outdone himself with some apparent hands-on time with Windows Mobile 7. Here’s what he’s saying via Twitter: the OS has been built on scratch, and none of the old WinMo 6.x apps worked. There’s “a lot of horizontal movements, a lot of additional info by clicks… for WM users it will be a great step ahead. For market it’s a copycat of Android 3.1/3.2 [sic] or iPhone.” No direct comparison to Zune HD, except to say that it’s a simpler UI than what he was seeing here, and also no clue on the kernel underneath. Still, the lack of legacy compatibility is either a huge bummer to the fan base, or if not that then Microsoft is preparing for a two-platform WinMo world. Then again, this is a purported early build (and while we’re at it, an unconfirmed hands-on), so who knows what’s bound to change before the final release. There’s a lot of other details if you’re willing to check his feed, or just head over to WMPoweruser for the abridged / “good parts” version. Boy, February just can’t come soon enough.

Early Windows Mobile 7 build gets handled, incompatible with previous WinMo apps? originally appeared on Engadget on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 03:18:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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LG releasing Windows Mobile 7 phone in September and Android 2.1 in April?

First LG flat-out says on public record that Windows Mobile 7 is bound for 2010, and now we’ve gotten apparent word that the company has narrowed said release window to September of this year — at least as far as its own devices are concerned. That comes via high-profile French tech blogger Eric of Presse Citron, who while attending a LG Design Lab tweeted (both in French and immediately after in English) that LG Mobile will release a Windows Mobile 7 device in September and an Android 2.1 device in April, first in the US and then Europe just after. The tweets are now gone, but WMPoweruser managed to catch both via Google cache, while we have corroborated just the French one by similar means. So, misheard claims from the company or accidental slip-up of NDA’d secrets? MWC is starting to look more and more interesting.

LG releasing Windows Mobile 7 phone in September and Android 2.1 in April? originally appeared on Engadget on Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:48:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Rumor: Windows Mobile 7 Will Have Gestures, Really Debut in February

There’s still some question about whether Windows Mobile 6.6 or Windows Mobile 7 will be shown in February, but a solid tipster just told us that it will be WM7. And then he describes it.

Here are a couple things described about WinMo 7 that mesh with the rumors we’ve heard before. First, it’ll have the Natal-like gestures to be able to use the phone without touching it. We first heard about gestures on WM7 two years ago, and then sprinkled about the rumors in the past year.

Then, he says that you won’t be able to upgrade to Windows Mobile 7, because the OS actually requires you to have better hardware (faster processor, more memory, etc) and includes support for the motion-sensing gestures above.

This bit also meshes with the rumored specs of the “Zune phone”, which is basically Windows Mobile 7. From that rumor:

ARM v6+ processor, with an Open GL ES 2.0-capable graphics chip-this may be the TI3430 or the Nvidia Tegra. To show all the eye candy there will be a 3.5″ 800 x 480 or 854 x 480 pixels touchscreen. The specification also points out at other things in Pink, like 3-megapixel camera, GPS, light sensor, 3-axis compass, accelerometer, USB, Bluetooth, and full Wi-Fi support.

But then how does that account for the HD2, which HTC Russia claimed will be getting a WM7 upgrade? Because HD2 is basically the top of the line right now, which—looking at its specs—put it into the Windows Mobile 7-capable category.

So yes, it seems like we’ll be seeing Windows Mobile 7 at Mobile World Congress in February. It better be pretty damn good for Microsoft’s projection of being able to regain 25% of the phone market by 2014.

Thanks tipster!

Windows Mobile 6.6 (aka ‘not Windows Mobile 7’) set for February release?

The sometimes-believable, sometimes-not fellows over at DigiTimes are reporting today that Windows Mobile codename “Maldives” is going to break out as version 6.6 (a name we’d previously heard associated with version 7) with native support for capacitive touchscreens next month — a launch window that would line up nicely with Mobile World Congress, where 6.5 was announced a year prior. HTC’s HD2 has already proven that it’s possible to cleanly support capacitive touch on a 6.x-based device, so it’s reasonable to think that this is legit — but what we don’t yet know is how this dovetails with 6.5.3, whether they’re the same thing, and if Microsoft is doing this simply to buy itself a few precious extra months to bake WinMo 7 to a crispy, golden brown perfection. We’d already heard before that 6.x and 7 will have an opportunity to coexist in the marketplace, so it’s entirely possible that 6.6 is the version that’ll carry that torch on the 6.x side of things — but if this gets announced alone without a mention of Robbie’s ground-up rewrite at MWC, we’d wager there’ll be riots in Barcelona.

Windows Mobile 6.6 (aka ‘not Windows Mobile 7’) set for February release? originally appeared on Engadget on Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:22:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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