Liev Schreiber Shares 'The Trick' To His Nine-Year Relationship With Naomi Watts

Liev Schriber and Naomi Watts may not be married, but the two mega-stars are widely considered to be one of Hollywood’s most stable couples as they’ve been together for over nine years.

In an interview to promote his Showtime series “Ray Donovan,” Schreiber admitted that juggling work, the couples’ two children and their relationship can’t happen without mutual effort.

“It’s really difficult,” the actor admitted. “You do your best. You both have to compromise and you both have to work for each other and for the kids, and you have to figure out how to maintain a happy, healthy relationship.”

It comes down to clocking enough face time, Schreiber emphasized.

“It’s finding time for each other,” he said. “That’s the trick to any relationship, you know. Finding time to really be present for each other.”

This applies to relationships between any two people — not just major Hollywood stars.

“It’s like any family,” he told host Alyona Minkovski. “It’s a challenge. For us even more so because we both like to work so much. That’s just the nature of two actors together, and, in her case, a very talented, very successful one.”

Watch the rest of Liev Schreiber’s conversation with HuffPost Live below:

UN Authorizes Cross-Border Aid For Syria Without Government Approval

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. Security Council has unanimously approved a resolution authorizing cross-border delivery of humanitarian aid to Syrians in rebel-held areas in desperate need of food and medicine, without government approval.

The resolution adopted Monday expresses “grave alarm at the significant and rapid deterioration of the humanitarian situation in Syria” and deplores the fact that its previous demands for humanitarian access “have not been heeded” by the government and opposition fighters.

The council adopted a resolution in February demanding that all sides in the conflict allow immediate access for aid, lift the sieges of populated areas, stop depriving civilians of food and halt attacks against civilians. But monthly reports to the council since then by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on its implementation have described an increasingly dire situation.

I Look At You, And I Am Inspired Only For My Son

Click here to watch the TEDTalk that inspired this post.

Months ago, I read a Facebook update from a young woman with cerebral palsy:

“So I am at the grocery store doing my errands, minding my own business and some random lady comes up to me and asks about my leg and back brace. I explain that I have cerebral palsy and few other conditions that require such tools. She then goes on to explain that her kids also have CP, and I am inspiration to her that I have graduated from college and am independent. I am far from inspiration. I am just doing what I need to do to live my life.”

I knew what she meant. But as the mother of a child with cerebral palsy, I knew what that mom meant, too.

In the past year I’ve read a lot about “inspiration porn,” a term coined by Stella Young that she describes in her recent TED talk. One of the things I want most for Max is for others to see all of him, not just his disabilities. To see the person. Inspiration porn turns kids and adults with disabilities into fantasy heroes, further widening the gap between them and others.

And yet, on my blog, I am always gushing over Max’s feats. Even the smallest accomplishments are a big deal to me, like when he pours paint out of a container (fine-motor skills are a challenge) or steers a bumper car at an amusement park. I share because I am proud of Max, and because I write to inspire other parents. Years ago, when Max was born, there weren’t many blogs around, and all I could do was message other moms on an e-loop for parents of babies who had strokes to ask how their children were doing. When did their kid crawl? Walk? Could their child talk? How was his cognition? I needed to hear that there were kids doing these things and making progress, because doctors hadn’t left us with much hope. Now, when I get emails from parents saying that Max is inspiring to them, it makes me seriously happy.

And yet, there are times when people who don’t know our family or Max marvel over him, and it makes me uncomfortable. Once, Max was splashing around in a pool, and a mom standing nearby said, “I just wanted to tell you, your son is amazing.” I mean, I know that, years ago, he was terrified of pools, and he overcame his fears. Years ago, he couldn’t keep his balance, but now he ambles around in the water, but she didn’t know all that. She just saw a kid with disabilities splashing in a pool, seemingly qualifying him for an Olympic medal.

And yet, I find inspiration in teens and adults with cerebral palsy doing everyday things. Ones who write blogs, go to college, have jobs, live independently. If I saw an adult with cerebral palsy in a pool swimming, I’d be psyched. I am inspired because of the hope they give me that Max will do the same when he is older.

I hope the adults with disabilities out there like Stella Young who rightly rail against inspiration porn can cut parents of kids with special needs a little slack. I don’t mean to objectify you when I gaze admiringly as you browse in the bookstore (although rest assured, I wouldn’t come up to you and gush), or when I tweet to an adult blogger with CP that I find her inspiring. I don’t see your life as an “exception” — actually, I want my boy to someday have your life, the kind where he does everyday things like shop for groceries. If I consider your ordinary extraordinary, it’s only because I am looking at you and envisioning my son.

Ellen Seidman blogs daily at Love That Max. Read more from her:

When programs won’t accommodate kids with special needs

You never stop appreciating the milestones, big or small

A note to the mom who stared at my child

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Meet All 18 Adorable Baby Gorillas Born In Rwanda Over The Last Year

With fewer than 900 mountain gorillas left in the world, every time a new youngster is born it’s a cause for celebration. But in Rwanda, home to the greatest number of these critically endangered primates, they take it one step further — by literally throwing a massive party in their honor.

The Science-Religion Crisis at Christian Colleges

Shortly after the 2004 publication of his book, Random Designer, biologist Richard Colling was prohibited from teaching introductory biology courses at Olivet Nazarene College in Illinois and his book was banned from the campus. Peter Enns, who earned his PhD from Harvard University in Near Eastern languages and civilizations, claimed that the first chapters of Genesis are firmly grounded in ancient myth, which he defines as “an ancient, premodern, prescientific way of addressing questions of ultimate origins in the form of stories”; in 2008, the board of Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia forced Enns, a tenured faculty member, to resign after fourteen years. In 2010, Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando fired biblical scholar Bruce Waltke for stating that evolution is true. In 2011, Calvin College fired theologian John Schneider and silenced biblical scholar Dan Harlow for challenging the traditional Christian understanding of a literal Adam and Eve.

Adam and Eve are the third rail for contemporary evangelical scholars–touch it and you will die (homosexuality is another third rail).

Science has peeled away successive layers of the Adam and Eve narrative for over two centuries. According to the traditional account, Adam and Eve, the morally pure first couple, lived in a paradise where, though they didn’t work, their every need was met. In Eden there was no suffering and death (not just for humans but for every living creature). Adam’s fall, then, issued forth in natural evils such as earthquakes, pestilence, and famine (and the suffering and death that lie in their wake) and moral evils such as human slavery, war, and other forms of violence (and the suffering and death that lie in their wake). Prior to the fall, the world was one of suffering-free and death-free bliss.

The disciplined study of geology in the nineteenth century presented an entirely different picture: a history that preceeded by millions of years that suggested by a literal reading of Genesis, a history of natural evils on a scale vaster than could have been imagined. For example, previously unknown species such as the Megalosaurus and Iguanodon had not only suffered and died; they had gone extinct.

Modern geology says that natural evil, then, did not enter the world through the fall of Adam; it’s built into the world’s very structure. Therefore Adam and Eve did not live in an Edenic paradise with little struggle for existence. They would have entered into a world of suffering and death, one in which they would have to eke out their own existence.

What about Adam and Eve themselves? Even if an Edenic paradise is no longer tenable, what about a primordial perfect couple from whom all human beings have descended?

Contemporary molecular biology suggests that all living human beings are descended from about 10,000 early humans, not a single couple. And paleontology, anthropology and archaeology have converged on the view that the first humans were anything but morally pure; their lives were characteristically selfish and even viciously so, in ways that included war, murder, and rape.

Science tells us that there was no Edenic paradise, no first couple, and no sinless parents of humanity.

And while most scientists and some theologians and philosophers teaching at Protestant Christian colleges know this, very few are willing to speak out. The message of the dismissals is clear — speak out and get fired. When dissenting Christian voices are squelched or fired, faculty clam up.

Christian colleges and seminaries desperately fear change. According to Peter Enns, “The theological tradition embraced at Westminster Theological Seminary, stemming from deliberations in England during the seventeenth century, is nevertheless perceived by its adherents to enjoy an unassailable permanence and in need of no serious adjustments, let alone critical reflection, despite many known advances in biblical studies or science since that time.”

How can Christian intellectuals be getting fired, just when Christians need leadership on this and other science-related matters? With such a paucity of intellectual assistance, Christians feel forced to choose between the science of human origins, on the one hand, and an antiquated theology of human origins on the other.

A recent Gallup poll indicates that in the U.S. the percentage of those who believe that humans evolved through a God-guided process has declined from 38 percent to 31 percent for the period from 1982 to 2014.

And while massive amounts of money have been spent on science education and in court battles, the number of people who believe that humans were created in their present form 10,000 years ago has stayed roughly the same over this period (an embarrassing 42 percent of the U.S. population).

The single, most relevant variable indicative of young-earth creationism is church attendance. Fully 69 percent of young-earth creationists are regular church attenders. Sadly, low education is likewise highly correlated with young-earth creationism.

The only clear winner of the past thirty years is atheism. The number of people who believe that God had nothing to do with the creation of humans has doubled in just over 30 years (from 9 percent to 19 percent). Apparently, those people, too, think that one is forced to choose between science and antiquated theology.

Along with their firings, Protestant Christian college and seminary presidents have taken the side of antiquated theology over science (contributing even further to Christian colleges’ climate of fear). For example, in 2010, at a conference chock full of Christian leaders, Albert Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (the flagship seminary of the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S.), resoundingly declared that the Bible unequivocally teaches six twenty-four-hour days of creation and a young universe (on the order of tens of thousands of years, not billions). He claims:

I would suggest to you that in our effort to be most faithful to the scriptures and most accountable to the grand narrative of the gospel an understanding of creation in terms of 24-hour calendar days and a young earth entails far fewer complications, far fewer theological problems and actually is the most straightforward and uncomplicated reading of the text as we come to understand God telling us how the universe came to be and what it means and why it matters.

In his wooden and historically uninformed interpretation of Genesis, Mohler, armed with no training whatsoever in the relevant sciences or ancient Mesopotamian history, rejected cosmology, geology, and biology. At the end of his sermon, Mohler boldly asserted: “I want to suggest to you that when it comes to the confrontation between evolutionary theory and the Christian gospel we have a head-on collision. In the confrontation between secular science and the scripture we have a head-on collision.”

By squelching faithful scientific and theological exploration, Mohler and company are teaching Christian students that Christians are forced to choose between well-established knowledge and God. And they are teaching teachers and pastors who are teaching children and lay people that they must choose likewise.

But forcing a choice between science and God may not have the result Christian colleges and their shortsighted leaders desire. Forced to choose between physics, cosmology, paleontology, anthropology, geology, genetics, and biology, on the one hand, and their antiquated interpretation of Christianity on the other, increasingly many will choose science.

The Emotional Whiplash Of Parenting A Teenager

Being a teenager is hard – being the parent of a teenager may be even harder. Any parent of an adolescent knows the pain of being rejected, neglected, or artfully critiqued by their teenager. But being pushed away is only the half of it. Raising teenagers becomes that much more stressful and confounding when teenagers interrupt weeks of frostiness with moments of intense warmth and intimacy.

Book Clubs Are Badass

I’ve never belonged to a book club. (Unless Oprah’s Book Club counts. Btw, still waiting for Oprah to call. #OprahIndieBkstoreTour.) But in my profession, I meet a lot of book club members. And I gotta say, they’re badass.

The gravity of choosing a club name. The ongoing battles to select titles. The no holds barred opinions and heated debates. Kicking members out for failing to read the book or stay on topic. The wine! These readers are the masters of their literary domain.

And they’re a force to be reckoned with in the publishing and bookselling world. “How do we reach the book clubs?” the industry cries. These dedicated readers who read at least one book every month. Some studies show that 24 percent of Americans don’t even read one book a year! And that includes Fifty Shades of Grey.

The names of book clubs are often amusing: Bookies, Happy Bookers, Book Bags, Cross Talking Bettys, Qwill & Swill, Literary Giants, Ladies of the Evening. (Though nothing can beat the book club in Lorna Landvik’s novel of the same name, Angry Housewives Eating Bon Bons.)

But there is also the underbelly of book clubs. Pretending to end the club, then starting again under a new name so as to get rid of a member. Members who treat the group like a drinking club with a book problem. The contention over who gets the book club in a divorce.

In the reading world at large, some book clubs have become legendary. Kathy (Patrick) Murphy founded the Pulpwood Queens Book Club in 2000 in her bookstore/beauty salon with six members. Fourteen years later they have 3,000 members and their annual event draws 500 girls who just wanna have fun, and read.

With smaller hair than their Texas counterparts and, well, less clothing, there’s the Outdoor Co-Ed Topless Pulp Fiction Appreciation Society in New York. Although the group’s main objective is to promote toplessness, they have certainly made the idea of book clubs more (forgive me) titillating.

And a discussion of book clubs isn’t complete without mention of Goodreads, the book website with an estimated 20 million members. Goodreads may be an online book club, but based on some of the posted reviews and discussions I’d venture to guess that members imbibe just as much as their real world counterparts.

It’s estimated that over five million people belong to book clubs. So I wonder how an avid reader like myself somehow missed the boat. Why am I not in a book club? How are they not reaching me? Is there a void in the book club market? I thought about what kind of book club I would want to join. A book club for writers in need of procrastination. (“Let’s all read the book, a second time.”) A book club for insomniacs. (“Everybody available the first Tuesday of every month at, say, 3 a.m.?”) A book club that serves tapas and chocolate. (That one can’t be too hard to find.)

Then I started thinking, what if there was a book club just for famous authors? Like the Rock Bottom Remainders, the band made up of published writers — Stephen King, Amy Tan, Mitch Albom, Barbara Kingsolver. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Chuck Palahniuk, David Sedaris, Anne Rice, Jackie Collins, James Patterson, and Zadie Smith get together to sip Two-Buck Chuck, nibble Brie, and discuss whether The Goldfinch is art.

For now I will stick with my book club of two: my sweetheart and me. We agree on the books to read. Scheduling won’t be an issue. And well, let’s just say, every book will have a happy ending.

How I Found Inspiration In The Typical

Click here to watch the TEDTalk that inspired this post.

In her TED Talk, “I’m Not Your Inspiration, Thank You Very Much,” Stella Young explains how people with disabilities are seen as inspirational just for getting up in the morning. Even if they have not achieved anything exceptional, the fact that they have a disability means they are considered inspirational just for existing.

Young does not approve of that concept, and neither do I. As kind hearted as that thought may be, it does not serve my son who has a disability. My son is special, but not any more so than his typically developing twin sisters. It’s true that my son does have to work harder than his sisters at certain things, but what will serve him best in life is to congratulate him for his hard work when it is earned and to correct him when he is misbehaving. There is really nothing inspirational about that.

That is why I adore Wil’s friend, Seeger, because, to her, Wil is not an inspiration, he is just one of her buddies.

Back in September, Wil and I ran into Seeger on the way to school.

Wil gave her a big hug, which she knows to brace herself for, because he nearly knocks her over in his enthusiasm. They clasped hands, and off they went to school, two first graders with oversized backpacks slung over their shoulders, heads tilted toward one another, Seeger animatedly chatting to Wil as he listened and smiled, hanging on to her every word.

Seeger chatted Wil up about all sorts of things. She told him about her Grandmother’s dog that just died but lived a few days longer than she was supposed to, and how the shoes she’s wearing will give her blisters if she doesn’t wear socks, and oh, watch out, Wil, there is some dog poop on the sidewalk, and how she stepped in dog poop once and now her shoes are in the dump.

Typical first grade conversation between friends. Nothing very inspirational about it.

But, Wil is not your typical first grader and neither is Seeger.

Wil is not typical because he has 47 chromosomes, while all the other children in his classroom have 46. In other words, Wil has Down syndrome, and his classmates do not.
Seeger is not typical, because it’s not common to hear kids share these everyday types of conversations with Wil.

It’s not that his classmates aren’t friendly with him — quite the opposite. They love to hug him, play with him and help him, but very few talk to him like they talk to their other friends.

I understand the reasons. Wil is behind his peers cognitively, so he doesn’t have the capacity, yet, to fully participate in peer level conversation. But, he can contribute and desires to do so, is a good listener, fully comprehends what is being said to him and greatly benefits from peer level camaraderie.

In fact, the more Wil is spoken to in a typical fashion, the sooner he will develop the ability to reciprocate the same, and see himself as a valued peer and friend.

Seeger innately understands all of this. She recognizes that Wil has Down syndrome and certain things are very difficult for him, so she is very patient with him, helps him when he needs it, but she certainly doesn’t put him on a pedestal or overindulge him because he has certain limitations.

One day, as I was giving Seeger a ride home, Wil reached over and mischievously grabbed her backpack from her. She looked over at him, told him firmly to stop and grabbed it right back. Two minutes later, they were happily chattering away.

Typical first grade behavior between friends. That is what I find so very inspirational about it.

So, now, when I think back to that September day, as I watched two friends walk off to school, hands clasped, oversized backpacks slung over their shoulders, heads tilted toward one another in deep conversation, I can’t help but shed a happy tear over the sheer typicalness of it.

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LeBron James Heads Back To Cleveland, But Let's Go Easy On The Hero Talk

After four years with the Miami Heat, LeBron James has returned to play for his hometown Cleveland Cavaliers. He’s once again working with team owner Dan Gilbert, who famously called James’ 2010 departure from the Cavs a “shameful display of selfishness and betrayal.” (James says he and Gilbert have since patched things up.) He’s coming back to play for fans who burned his jerseys when he left for Miami. It’s clear James has learned from the public scorn that accompanied “The Decision” in 2010 — hence the humble tone of his Sports Illustrated soliloquy last week. But this latest move proves nothing about his character.

Perhaps it is time for us to simply accept James for who he is: a hired gun. One of the best, but a hired gun all the same. James escaped from Cleveland when it was clear he couldn’t lead his team to a title, and now he’s departed Miami under the same circumstances. Our generation’s best talent is also a 21st-century Houdini. James, who grew up in Akron, Ohio, is spinning his return to the Cavs as a heroic move, and many fans and sportswriters alike seem willing to go along with that. But James has given us no real reason to think of him as a hero.

What we know is that James is staying in the moribund Eastern Conference and headed to a team with three No. 1 picks and the possibility of attaining three-time All-Star Kevin Love. The Cavs have Kyrie Irving and Andrew Wiggins under contract for the next five years, and they could get as many as three first-round draft picks in 2015. Surely that didn’t hurt when James was making his choice.

“Before anyone ever cared where I would play basketball, I was a kid from Northeast Ohio,” James told Sports Illustrated on Friday. “It’s where I walked. It’s where I ran. It’s where I cried. It’s where I bled. It holds a special place in my heart. People there have seen me grow up. I sometimes feel like I’m their son. Their passion can be overwhelming … My relationship with Northeast Ohio is bigger than basketball.”

OK. But where was all the walking and running and crying and bleeding when James took off for Florida in 2010? It was only 10 months ago that James was telling ESPN, “I would love to spend the rest of my career in Miami with this great team and great organization as we continue to compete for championships. That’s ideal.”

James shows unparalleled artistry on the court. But let’s not mistake that for loyalty to the fans and city of Cleveland. James has shown us before that he’s willing to jump ship if that’s what makes sense to him. Before we all hail to the king and pay homage to his throne, let’s keep in mind that LeBron James might not be so much a king as an emperor with no clothes.

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The Vulnerability that Makes Peace Possible: An Interview with Stanley Hauerwas

I was privileged enough to chat with Stanley Hauerwas on how our theology impacts our perception of the Other, our political allegiances, and our desired response to our enemies. Nearly every article on Hauerwas mentions that TIME magazine designated him “America’s Best Theologian” in 2001, so I guess I’ll do the same here. He was also interviewed by Oprah. As the author of a veritable library and known as one of the world’s foremost postliberal theologians, he was educated at Yale in a time when George Lindbeck and H. Richard Niebuhr graced its halls. Now the Gilbert T. Rowe Professor of Theological Ethics at Duke Divinity School, Hauerwas is proud of his heritage as a bricklayer’s son and frequently makes correlations between his upbringing in the trades and the theological craft. He hates pretention and dislikes when Christians act nice as a way of flaunting their ostensible superiority. But Hauerwas is probably best known for his outspoken pacifism and censure of American Evangelical Christianity’s individualism, emphasis on rationalism or “right belief” — by both fundamentalist and liberal theologians — and uncritical subsumption of neoliberal impulses and militaristic state priorities.

Hauerwas had a major influence on my theological development. Along with the writings of John Howard Yoder — Hauerwas’ colleague and close friend from their days together at Notre Dame — I devoured anything he wrote especially during my later undergraduate years, Resident Aliens begin the most formative for me. His works gave me something in the theological realm to be excited about for the first time. I owe a lot to Hauerwas for this major shift and my trajectory since.

In our interview, we discussed the intersection of theology and practical nonviolence, or how our theological commitments can inspire love of enemies and confer dignity on the Other. We also explored his insights into why the default maneuver of the majority of Christians in the affluent West (and especially the United States) is to individualistically tailor their theologies — deliberately or unwittingly — to conform to their political allegiances, the false promises of empire, the allure of patriotic nationalism, and the violence and militarism that support these loyalties.

Within this framework, however, we focused on Hauerwas’ theological response specifically to the unfolding events and violence in the Middle East and the reaction of Christians in the West.

Klager: The Middle East is becoming more of a mess as the weeks go by and is hemorrhaging in places such as Syria, northern Iraq, Israel-Palestine, and in many respects still also in Egypt. So, how does your theology — your theological reflections, or the way you do theology — guide your reaction to the complex mix of religious, political, and economic reasons for this instability? Or, more simply, what does your theology say about how we should respond to the chaos and violence in the Middle East?

Hauerwas: Who’s the “we”? — I’m not going to do United States foreign policy, so the “we,” I take it to be “we” Christians who find ourselves with very unhappy alternatives, which means we need to make all the friends we can get. And that, I think, would be extremely important for Christians to simply be present in these contexts in a way that we can have some idea of what in the hell is going on, because I think that to really know what’s going on is very hard to discern. And that means — I mean, I’m really attracted to the work that Christian Peacemaker Teams do, who go to Hebron and get between Palestinians and Israelis and say, “can we fix you guys a meal?” I mean, that’s at least starting to help people discover one another’s humanity, and if you don’t do that, I think that any kind of long-term solution is quite hopeless.

Klager: For better of worse, there are a variety of initiatives that could be implemented to address the violence in pockets of the Middle East — including military action, political negotiation and diplomacy, humanitarian assistance, and grassroots conflict transformation and peacebuilding. What are a few of the key theological considerations that you’d underscore to others in an attempt to convince them to support nonviolence and a just peace rather than violent, dehumanizing approaches?

Hauerwas: Well, I think that fundamental is the presumption that as followers of Christ we do not assume that we are going to rule the world. Rather, we assume that God has given us time in a world with deep injustice to do the kinds of things that are necessary for the recognition of the dignity of the enemy, and how that recognition can lead to reconciliation. And it takes time; … God became time with Christ, which means that we have all the time in the world to do what’s necessary.

Klager: What are some of the most toxic theological ideas that you see as especially encouraging the support of violence and imperialism in reaction to the instability in the Middle East, for which healthier theological alternatives should be posed instead?

Hauerwas: That if we don’t do something, things will go to hell in a handbasket — and where the “we,” to assumed meaning the American “we” — and that is often underwritten by certain kinds of Evangelical theology that assumes that Israel, as a modern state, really is still the promised people. Now, I believe that Jews are the promised people, but I don’t believe that that necessarily finds expression in the state of Israel, and I find some of that kind of rhetoric extremely toxic.

Klager: What do you say to — or what have you found causes the most positive cognitive dissonance when said to — those Christians who promote a militaristic “solution” to the many conflicts in the Middle East?

Hauerwas: How attention to the cross helps us see that God would rather suffer our violence than to do violence, and that in the cross, therefore, we find what it means to be a follower of Christ to the extent that we don’t reproduce the violence that killed him.

Klager: Loving one’s enemies is hard. As you’ve famously admitted before, “I’m a pacifist because I’m a violent son of a bitch.”

Hauerwas: Well, nonviolence is a declaration of the need for the help of others, and therefore nonviolence is not a heroic individualistic ethic. It is a way of saying, “I am violent, and that’s the reason why — by creating expectations in you about the necessity of peace — I have some hope that you will keep me faithful to what I know is true but that I have no faith in my ability to live. So it creates that kind of vulnerability that makes peace possible.

Klager: So, what do you suggest Christians do to become authentic peacemakers and people who intuitively love their enemies rather than people who simply “try really hard” to follow a nonviolent ideology in a contrived way without it coming naturally from within?

Hauerwas: Listen to the liturgy that’s called the Eucharist and participate in it; that’s all you need.

Klager: On a somewhat separate but related topic, what advice can you give to parents trying to teach their children to follow the gospel of peace amidst the societal pressures to embrace nationalism and militarism?

Hauerwas: I think the most important thing that we can do for kids in that regard is just to teach them the stories of Christ, and how those stories shape [the way they] play and how they relate to their brothers and sisters.

Klager: How should Christians react to Veterans Day (or Remembrance Day here in Canada) or nationalistic holidays like the Fourth of July or Canada Day?

Hauerwas: Well, we ought to be respectfully on the sideline, and that means we don’t want to disrespect those that have conscientiously participated [in past and ongoing wars]. But at the same time, we need to make clear the sacrifices of those who did not conscientiously participate and to remember both and hope for reconciliation.

Klager: As I’m an Eastern Orthodox Christian who is still greatly informed by and even teaches on Anabaptism and the Mennonite imagination, how do you maintain your peace convictions within a so-called ‘high church’ tradition in the Episcopal church, whose past and present often support imperialism, nationalism, church-state fusion, and militarism?

Hauerwas: I can’t imagine doing it without the high church tradition. I mean, the worship life is absolutely necessary for sustaining the position as far as I’m concerned. [And, in terms of the legacy of church-state fusion, etc.] Well, that’s the way it is, and you’ve got to learn to live without it.