Apple details 2010 presentation to Samsung on Android patent infringement, licensing offer

Apple reveals 2010 presentation to Samsung on Android patent infringement, licensing offer

As the battle between Samsung and Apple closed out another week in US District Court, lawyers for the latter focused its argument on evidence and testimony covering a presentation Apple made to Samsung in 2010, and its offer to license the patents. AllThingsD has the deck of slides from the meeting (embedded after the break), specifying areas and specific patents Apple believes Android as an OS infringes or things Samsung specifically copied elements from, plus a report on testimony from Apple executive Boris Teksler. He testified today about the meeting with Samsung, calling it a “trusted partner” (should be, since Apple paid it paid $5.7 billion for parts that year) that both Tim Cook and Steve Jobs spoke to directly about the issue.

While more information is expected from Teksler next week, he did have time to put a dollar amount on the licensing deal Apple subsequently offered, at about $30 per smartphone and $40 per tablet, as well as royalties also collected from phones running Symbian and Bada, with the possibility of a 20 percent discount if Samsung would cross license its own technology back to Apple. The companies are restricted by Judge Koh to 25 hours each to argue their points (Apple is at 11 and a half hours while Samsung has crossed over 12 with its own arguments yet to come) but we’re sure there’s enough time left for a few more revelations before any resolution is reached.

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Apple exec talks about the iPhone’s early days, the secrecy of ‘Project Purple’

Apple execs talk about the iPhone's early days, the secrecy of 'Project Purple'

The back and forth of Apple and Samsung’s spat can be tiring, it’s true, but the legal debacle has its moments. Cupertino’s Scott Forstall, for instance, took the stand on Friday to give some insights on the beginnings of what Apple called “Project Purple,” and the secrecy that surrounded the first iPhone’s development. “We’re starting another project,” Forstall would tell potential recruits to the project, “It’s so secret I cannot tell you what the project is. You are going to have to give up nights and weekends for a couple years.” These were the words that conscripted much of the team that would eventually build Apple’s first phone. Forstall said that the engineers he recruited weren’t told anything about the project or even who they would report to — eventually, Apple locked down one of its Cupertino buildings, affectionately calling it the “purple dorm” for its vague pizza-like aroma.

When Apple’s attorney questioned the senior vice president of iOS software about how the Project Purple team drove innovation, Forstall went on to describe the challenge of building a touch-centric OS. “Everything we dealt with before was based on mouse and keyboard, and here we were changing the entire user interface to be based around touch. We had to rethink everything about what big controls would be knowing where you are in the document, knowing when you reach the list… Every single part of every device had to be rethought for doing touch.” Samsung’s legal team was more concerned with how Project Purple was inspired by competitor devices; Forstall responded by saying that Apple simply tested Purple’s call performance against other devices, noting that “it’s fine to benchmark for performance reasons, it’s not OK to copy and rip something off.”

The comments are interesting, but they probably won’t weight too heavily on the jury’s final decision. Still, the stories are entertaining, and worth a read for those interested in the iPhone’s origins. Even so, we’ll be glad when the patent wars are finally over.

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First Day Of Apple-Samsung Trial Yields Troves Of New iPhone, iPad Prototypes

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Yesterday, in one of the biggest tech trials to hit U.S. soil, Apple called longtime Apple employee and designer Christopher Stringer to the stand as its first witness. Testifying that Samsung “ripped them off,” Stringer showed off dozens of images depicting various iPhone and iPad prototypes that were developed by Apple. There are over 60 images, some of which we’ve seen before, and some of which are brand new.

In one iPhone prototype, Apple included a thin little shelf at the bottom that’s just the opposite of the Droid line’s chin. There are also models that look incredibly similar to the Lumia line, with flat tops and bottoms and rounded sides, as well as prototypes that have flat sides and rounded tops and bottoms. There’s even a model shaped like an elongated octagon.

Clearly, the iPhone was a risky move for Apple, and according to Stringer’s testimony, even Steve Jobs had doubts. This explains why the company went through so many different design iterations from 2003 until 2007, to make sure the revolutionary mobile phone would be “something that people can love.”

You’ll also see various iPad prototypes, including ones with ridges along the edges of its backside to help with grip and others with sharpened corners.

In any case, the trial is set to continue at 9:00AM PST, so we’ll keep you up to date as things progress. In the meantime, get a little insight into Apple’s design process below:

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[via The Verge]


Apple designer takes the witness stand in Samsung case, brings more iPhone / iPad prototypes along

Apple designer takes the witness stand in Samsung case, brings more iPhone  iPad prototypes along

Thought you’d seen all of the iPhones (and iPads)-that-never-were? If you did, then you were wrong as Apple industrial designer Christopher Stringer testified as a witness in the case vs. Samsung today, revealing many details about the company’s design process. That included more pictures of phone and tablet prototypes being filed as evidence, while he reportedly also brought a few along for show and tell. The Verge has a few galleries of CAD shots and pictures of rejected designs, including more of the lozenge edged types we’d seen before, and iPads complete with a curved grip around the edge. AllThingsD chimes in with a few interesting tidbits from his testimony, including the revelation that Apple designers actually sit around a kitchen table to debate the progress of current projects, and explaining that earlier iPhone prototypes were labeled iPods either because they had not yet decided on a name, or were already trying to obscure iPhone identity from potential leaks. There’s more info at the source links, take a careful look at the iThings around you and imagine what might have been.

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Apple Lawyer Outs Internal Samsung Documents That Claim The iPhone Is “Easy To Copy”

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Today the first shots were fired in the high-profile U.S. patent war between Apple and Samsung, beginning with Apple’s opening statements.

And no punch was pulled — Apple’s lawyer made a few hard-hitting claims in the courtroom, providing documents that show Samsung thought the iPhone was “easy to copy.” Harold McElhinny (Apple’s lawyer) also showed documents prepared by a Samsung executive that claim that the company was in a “crisis of design” because of the iPhone.

The presentation also included images of Samsung’s design evolution between pre-iPhone time and now.

But despite the evidence, McElhinny’s most crushing blow may have come in the form of a simple and well-known tech adage: “As we all know, it is easier to copy than to innovate. Apple had already taken the risks.”

However, just saying the hardware is easily copied isn’t proof of copying it, which is why McElhinny returned to evidence introduced in pre-trial, depicting Samsung’s phones before 2007 and their phones after the iPhone’s debut.

Take a look:

According to McElhinny’s argument in court (via Reuters), the main question the court would have to answer was how Samsung went from the phones on the left to the phones on the right.

Apple argues that 22.7 million devices sold by Samsung are in violation of patent infringement, and that the company is seeking up to $2.525 billion in damages. Samsung will follow up in its opening statement later this afternoon.


Apple v. Samsung court filings reveal Sony-inspired iPhone, kickstand-equipped iPad and other prototypes

There’s no telling how much more we’ll see once the big Apple vs. Samsung trial finally gets underway in a San Jose federal court next week, but today has already seen the release of a swath of new documents full of surprises. Most notably, that includes a range of previously unseen Apple prototype devices, including various renderings of both the iPhone and iPad. One standout is an iPhone 4-esque device that quite literally wears its Sony influence on its sleeve (in one instance with the logo changed to “Jony,” a la Apple’s Jony Ive). According to the filing, it was designed by Apple’s Shin Nishibori, and was apparently up against another more metallic, iPod-style device at one point (ultimately winning out despite some protestation).

But those are far from the only iPhone prototypes that have been revealed. There’s also an elongated device identified by the codename N90, seemingly with a small screen and space for a keypad or input area of some sort below, plus a device with squared off corners somewhat reminiscent of the Motorola Photon 4G. Another prototype goes in the opposite direction, with sharp corners and a slightly rounded back. As for the iPad, we’ve gotten a look at some more recent prototypes than the early 2000-era model that surfaced earlier this month. While there’s no stylus in sight, there are a couple of iPad prototypes with kickstands built into the back of the device, and a number of considerably different designs than what Apple ultimately settled on. Dive into the galleries below for a closer look at the whole lot.

Michael Gorman contributed to this report.

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Apple demands $2.02, plus $3.10… equals a total of $2.5 billion in Samsung damages

Apple demands $2.02, plus $3.10, equals a total of $2.5 billion in Samsung damages How big is $2.525 billion when you’re Apple? It won’t affect living standards in Cupertino, that’s for sure, but it’s evidently enough to be worth hauling a rival through the US courts. The figure is revealed in Apple’s damages claim, submitted in the run-up to its battle with Samsung in California, and is quite separate to other claims in Europe and Australia. If you’re not already sick and tired of this feud, then the sums behind that big amorphous total make for curious reading.

According to a unit cost breakdown by Foss Patents, Apple wants $2.02 for every previously sold Samsung product that uses “overscroll bounce,” another $2.02 for those that allow “tap to zoom and navigate,” $3.10 for those that involve a “scrolling API,” plus a mega $24 for each and every device that breaks an Apple design patent or trade dress right. That means the bulk of Apple’s claim — as much as $2 billion — is actually for aesthetic rather than technical infringements. Of course, these figures have no bearing on what the US court may eventually decide to award to either party, and neither do they factor in any strategic value of the blood from Samsung’s nose, or the negative PR that can only grow amid such litigious behavior.

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Samsung granted expedited Galaxy Nexus injunction hearing

Samsung has just been granted its request to expedite its appeal of the preliminary injunction Apple was granted against the Galaxy Nexus in the US. Samsung now has until July 16th to file the court brief stating the process. Apple in turn has until July 30th to respond to the filing, with their final comments due by August 6th.
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