Apple vs Samsung break down as Jury heads to verdict

Over the past few weeks the tech world has been watching intently as Apple and Samsung battled in the courtroom here in the USA, only to have one last-ditch effort to settle things amicably break down at the zero hour. It’s now up to the jury to decide what the fate of these two companies will be in regards to the massive amount of design and technology patents they’re both claiming the other used without permission – copying and fair use are up for grabs, and someone is about to get hurt.

It appears that though the head of this court case, Judge Koh, has made it clear that things would be a lot better for both parties if they settled, both Apple and Samsung have not budged. Speaking over the weekend, both CEOs of the companies ended up not changing their case whatsoever. A joint filing send out since the weekend by both sides’ attorneys read as follows:

The parties have met and conferred about case narrowing, but have not been able to narrow their cases further.

This case began back in April of 2011 when Apple sued Samsung for the supposed copying of patented designs for mobile devices – the actual court session started just over two weeks ago. Samsung countersued back in 2011 and both companies have been making efforts to bring the case to this point ever since. Now it’s all in the jury’s hands.

Below you’ll find a timeline of important events that’ve occurred during the last two weeks of battle here in what’s certainly the most exciting tech-related court case of the summer. Feel free to lend your opinion on the proceedings, and stick around for the final verdict soon!

[via Business Week]


Apple vs Samsung break down as Jury heads to verdict is written by Chris Burns & originally posted on SlashGear.
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Apple and Samsung CEOs to discuss lawsuit ahead of deliberations

Apple and Samsung have both rested their cases in the trial relating to trade dress and patent claims, but the two companies will be discussing the case one more time to try and settle things before the jury is sent away to consider a verdict. Bloomberg reports that the CEOs of both companies, Tim Cook and Kwon Oh Hyun, will hold a telephone conference call to see if any resolution can be agreed upon.

The two CEOs will converse with each other via phone, with lawyers from both companies reporting to the courthouse and Judge Lucy Koh afterwards in order to report the outcome of the call. If the two CEOs fail to reach any sort of agreement, then the jury will be instructed to overlook the case and form a verdict, with the judge indicating that deliberations could begin as soon as tomorrow.

The trial has been a heated one, and not just for the two companies involved. On Friday evening, Judge Koh suggested that one of Apple’s lawyers may be “smoking crack” when he attempted to call a large list of further witnesses in the case. Apple is seeking $2.5 billion worth of damages from Samsung, claiming that the South Korean company copied the iPhone design along with important UI elements such as icons.

Samsung, meanwhile, denies such allegations, arguing that previous cases of prior art suggest that the iPhone design isn’t unique, and that the company arrived at its current icon designs of its own accord. Samsung also asserts that Apple has failed to license certain patents, and has tried to argue that other patents that Cupertino holds are invalid. Samsung is seeking $422 million in damages as a result.


Apple and Samsung CEOs to discuss lawsuit ahead of deliberations is written by Ben Kersey & originally posted on SlashGear.
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Chances of settlement slim in Apple, Samsung patent trial

With both sides having presented their cases in the high-profile Apple and Samsung patent suit, it’s almost time for the jury to begin deliberation. Before that happens, however, Judge Lucy Koh has asked both companies to either narrow their claims for the jury or attempt to reach a settlement. Unfortunately (and somewhat unsurprisingly) it looks like neither of those will be happening.


This means that not only will the jury have to decide who’s in the right here, but they’ll have to do so by wading through all of the claims both Apple and Samsung have made during the trial. Deliberation is set to begin on Tuesday, August 21, and Bloomberg Businessweek reports that both companies had until yesterday to report back on talks that were meant to narrow the claims. If a settlement could not be reached, Judge Koh was hoping that the companies could at least simplify the scope of the suit to make the deliberation process easier for the jury.

In a joint statement, attorneys for Apple and Samsung said that such talks proved fruitless, as they were not able to settle or or narrow the dispute. Part of that is because this case isn’t only raging in the US, as Apple and Samsung are currently duking it out in similar lawsuits on four different continents. Another part is that since both companies own a wide range of patents relating to smartphones and tablets, it’s inevitable that this case would be complex and perhaps a little too broad.

So, it appears that the jury has their work cut out for them. This suit has been filled with plenty of ups and downs for Apple and Samsung, and indeed both have made some convincing arguments throughout the case. Who will come out on top is anyone’s guess – and ultimately up to the jury – so we’ll all have to stay tuned for more information.


Chances of settlement slim in Apple, Samsung patent trial is written by Eric Abent & originally posted on SlashGear.
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Samsung rests asking $421.8 million vs Apple

This week the mobile device patent and design court case between Apple and Samsung is coming to final resting points starting with Samsung asking for a sum of $421.8 million from Apple if infringements are found valid. Samsung’s offensive piece of this trial has them working with three utility patents covering photo browsing, music playback, and email, with damages being limited to reasonable royalty rates alone. The reason for the limitation to royalty rates is that Samsung has not found themselves to have lost any sales due to the infringement they claim.

Samsung’s witness Dr. Vincent O’Brien helped the company come up with the amount that the company is asking of Apple, having looked at the history of Apple royalty payouts as well as similar cases in the field. According to O’Brien, Apple has paid $1.4 billion USD in royalties over the years (since they’ve existed, from what he’s said), this leading him in part to a final answer for Samsung. For the three patents listed above, Samsung is asking just $22.8 million.

The real cash comes in the form of two of Samsung’s standards-essential patents. Another of Samsung’s expert witnesses, Dr. David Teece, spoke on these patents and how they related to Apple’s net profits as a result of using them – again, if they are found guilty of infringement. With a reasonable percentage of net profits ranging between 2 and 2.75 percent, he found the result to be between $290 million and $399 million USD owed to Samsung by Apple.

Have a peek at a collection of news bits from the past week and a half regarding this case in the timeline below, and get caught up! This case will have Apple or Samsung paying one whole heck of a lot of cash in the end – and they might both be seeing the butt end of the shotgun when it comes to damages. We’re expecting a final verdict in this case by the end of the month!

[via The Verge]


Samsung rests asking $421.8 million vs Apple is written by Chris Burns & originally posted on SlashGear.
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Judge Koh suggests Apple is “smoking crack” in Samsung case

Today in the ongoing Apple vs Samsung court case Judge Lucy Koh’s patience wore thin as Apple presented a 75-page document highlighting 22 witnesses it would like to call in for rebuttal testimony, provided the court had the time. As those following the case closely know quite well, the case has a set number of hours which are already wearing quite thin. As quoted by The Verge as they sat in the courtroom listening in, Koh wondered aloud why Apple would offer the list “when unless you’re smoking crack you know these witnesses aren’t going to be called!”

Ouch. For the record, Apple lawyer William Lee told Judge Koh that “First, your honor, I’m not smoking crack. I can promise you that.” Crack or no, it seems that Apple will not get the opportunity to bring all of these rebuttal witnesses to the stand, even though Apple’s attorneys offered to shorten the length of the document.

It was a very unprofessional moment for Judge Koh, but replies in the Twittersphere as well as in forums across the web have backed her up with comments such as “right on!” and “Koh, throw them out!” Commenters backing both sides of the patent argument have largely labeled the trial as “patently absurd, “with both sides engaging in courtroom theatrics more than once. The high-profile nature of this case doesn’t help with that, since the counsel for both Apple and Samsung know that their words will be repeated 100 times over on the Internet. With all of that being said, it’s easy to see why Judge Koh’s temper is running a little short these days.

Indeed, for patent trial (which are typically incredibly boring), this case has given us a lot to talk about. Some feel that Apple is trying to patent rectangles with rounded corners, which just adds to the absurdity of everything. It seems that Judge Koh at least partially agrees that some of the points brought up during this case are frivolous, as she also told both parties that she will be billing them time since they’re both being “unreasonable.” Even though Judge Koh asking if Apple’s lawyers are smoking crack is questionable at best, at the very least we have to thank her for keeping things interesting.

Have a peek below at some additional interesting or otherwise rather important moments from the case as it continues to unfold this week. We’ll hopefully have some sort of end to the battle by the end of the month!

[Illustration via Vicki Ellen Behringer]


Judge Koh suggests Apple is “smoking crack” in Samsung case is written by Eric Abent & originally posted on SlashGear.
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Samsung argues that Apple’s designs are “obvious”

Apple rested its case in the trial against Samsung this week, and now the South Korean company is doing everything possible to prove its innocence. AllThingsD reports that Samsung attempted to dismiss allegations that its products copied the design of the iPhone, with senior user experience design Jeeyuen Wang testifying that the company didn’t copy any of Apple’s icons. She went on to say that Samsung tested multiple icons, ultimately falling back on familiar pictures such as the traditional telephone because users responded better to them.

Samsung’s lawyers then attempted to demonstrate that the iPhone’s design wasn’t original, showing various pieces of prior art, including several patents and LG’s Prada phone, all of which came before the release of the iPhone. After that, Samsung moved on to the design of the iPad, playing a video to the jury of Roger Fidler, who created several prototypes for tablets. Although they were mockups and not working devices, some features were reminiscent of the iPad, including a large touchscreen, a rectangular shape with rounded corners, and an all black bezel.

The electronics manufacturer then addressed Apple’s design patents, saying that they should be invalidated due to prior art, and that the elements that have been patented covered functions rather than ornamental design. Samsung’s lawyers argued that two iPhone design patents were invalid, saying that a Japanese patent “renders both of these designs obvious.” Samsung looks to be sticking to its original argument that Apple is essentially trying to patent a rectangular display with rounded corners.

Apple’s counterargument to the claims boiled down to the fact that there are alternative designs that Samsung could have used for its phones. Apple cited one of Sony’s tablets, saying that while it has a rectangular display and rounded corners, it doesn’t look like the iPad nor does it infringe on Apple’s design patents. Apple also introduced the design of the Nokia Lumia 800 and GzOne phone from Casio, again suggesting that there were alternative designs that Samsung could have pursued.


Samsung argues that Apple’s designs are “obvious” is written by Ben Kersey & originally posted on SlashGear.
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Judge cuts international Galaxy S and S II, Galaxy Ace from Apple lawsuit against Samsung

Judge cuts international Galaxy S and S II, Galaxy Ace from Apple's lawsuit against Samsung

Apple rested its side of the case in its main lawsuit against Samsung on Monday, and with the switch of focus came a small sacrifice. While Samsung failed in a Hail Mary bid to have the suit dismissed, it successfully argued that a few devices should escape the clutches of a full-fledged ban. Don’t get too excited, though: the exclusion list mostly touches on phones that only reach US shores through unofficial importers, including the Galaxy Ace as well as international editions of the Galaxy S and Galaxy S II. The decision still leaves the American variants of phones under scrutiny, and it doesn’t change Apple’s hopes of a large licensing fee for all the alleged transgressions. We’d still say the exemption provides some small amount of relief for Samsung, however. Most of Apple’s early, less-than-flattering accusations of trade dress violations focused on the more familiar-looking foreign Galaxy models and lose some of their thunder when leveled against the conspicuously altered designs that eventually set foot in the US.

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Apple patents licensed to Microsoft while Samsung declined

It seems that one of the bigger stories to come out of the Apple vs Samsung trail over the past few days has gotten just a bit more complicated, as the patents Apple offered to Samsung several years ago – the same that are on trial now – were also offered to Microsoft. As Apple’s director of patent licensing and strategy Boris Teksler noted in the case, Microsoft and Apple have had a long-running cross-licensing deal going in which all of the patents in the case at hand were and are included. With that deal came “specific rules” in which both companies are not allowed to make “clone” products.

In this Microsoft / Apple licensing deal, Teksler notes that “there’s a clear acknowledgment that there’s no cloning”, this same sort of deal having been offered to Samsung some years ago. Samsung objected noting that Apple had made no mention of their design patents when they met with them at this licensing deal several years ago. Apple responded with the idea that some of those patents were still pending at the time, with several having only been granted years later.

Teksler also noted that Apple never planned on offering up everything they had, “clone” clause or not.

“We were clear we weren’t offering a license to everything. We had yet to discuss some what we termed ‘untouchables,’ if you will. … We wanted to get properly compensated for that which was infringed, and with respect to our unique user experience. That’s exactly what we were trying to do with this presentation.” – Teksler

This is one of the last points of “attack” Apple will be able to go on as Samsung’s side of the trial, if you will, begins this week. Apple’s segment was essentially played out throughout the week previous to this one, while Samsung will call witnesses and experts to the stand Monday through Friday. Stay tuned as it all goes down right here on SlashGear!

[via CNET]


Apple patents licensed to Microsoft while Samsung declined is written by Chris Burns & originally posted on SlashGear.
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Apple offered licensing deal to Samsung, wanted $30 per phone

Apple and Samsung may currently be duking it out in the court room, but a freshly-surfaced Apple presentation from 2010 shows that the iPhone maker tried to strike a licensing deal with Samsung long before the jury became involved. Apple, as many of you already know, is taking Samsung to court over allegedly copying the iPhone in its own devices, but this new presentation shows that Apple tried to resolve the dispute by offering to license its patents to Samsung. Given the fact that Apple is currently suing Samsung for $2.5 billion, it seems that negotiations didn’t go so well.


AllThingsD reports that Apple patent licensing director Boris Teksler referenced the October 2010 presentation during his testimony yesterday. The presentation shows that Apple was asking for $30 on each Samsung smartphone sold (dubbed “advanced mobile computing device” in the presentation), and $40 for each Samsung tablet. If Samsung had agreed, Apple was projecting that it could have made $250 million from the licensing deal in 2010, a figure which can hardly be considered chump change.

Apple was willing to give Samsung discounts on royalties too, seeing as how it considered Samsung a “strategic supplier.” For instance, Samsung could have enjoyed a 20% discount if it chose to cross-license its own patent portfolio to Apple. Phones using an Apple-licensed OS were good for a 40% discount, and phones that didn’t use proprietary features – Apple references the Samsung Blackjack II in its presentation, which has a physical QWERTY keyboard – would have qualified for another 20% off.

Samsung, obviously, wanted nothing to do with this licensing deal, and Teksler said in his testimony that none other than Steve Jobs and Tim Cook were driven to confront Samsung executives about the similarities between the Galaxy S and the iPhone. Hopefully Samsung made the right choice in turning down that licensing deal, because if it loses this case, it could end up owing Apple a lot more than it would have been paying in royalties. Samsung is set to begin calling its own witnesses to the stand on Monday, so keep an ear to SlashGear for more information on this high-profile trial.


Apple offered licensing deal to Samsung, wanted $30 per phone is written by Eric Abent & originally posted on SlashGear.
© 2005 – 2012, SlashGear. All right reserved.


Samsung served on a public platter by Conan for Apple

With the Apple vs Samsung USA trail raging hard this week, late night talk show host Conan O’Brien’s crew have taken the time to create a spoof video that makes their stance on the subject very, very clear. With the fabulous art of sarcasm you’ll find this “Samsung made” video showing off how absolutely nothing alike the Samsung Galaxy S is to the iPhone, the same being true of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 compared to the iPad. Best of all, you’ll see a nearly Rastafarian “Stefan Jobes” at the end of the clip – just what you wanted!

This video makes light of the fact that Samsung is “vigorously denying” the idea that their designs for smart devices had anything to do with the success of the iPhone, with the Galaxy Tab being defended as well against the iPad. With the images flashed on the screen, it’s no wonder that the audience bursts out in laughter at Samsung’s perfectly illegitimate claims – but therein lies the parody bit.

It’s not as simple as all of this, no matter what the comedy group would have you believe. It’s fun to see it this way, and this method of comparison is certainly something a lot of people are understanding Apple to be doing in the case, but it’s a clip for a reason. Don’t miss the “Macrowave Oven”, the “Vac Pro”, and of course the scrollwheel-toting “iWasher” wash machine while you’re giggling.

When you head into a Samsung store this week, be sure to look for the “Samsung Smart Guy” making a copycat attempt at the Apple Geniuses as well. Think Slightly Different is the tagline here, and Samsung’s founder – in this alternate reality – Stefan Jobes is at the helm. Watch out, Samsung, this clip may have some traction, no matter how absurd it may seem!

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If you’re unfamiliar with the goings-on in this case outside this video, we encourage you to head to the timeline of recent links on the subject below – it’s a monumental court war to say the least!

[via Apple Insider]


Samsung served on a public platter by Conan for Apple is written by Chris Burns & originally posted on SlashGear.
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