Apple vs. Palm: the in-depth analysis


Apple and Palm kicked a lot of dirt at each other last week — acting Apple CEO Tim Cook flatly told analysts that “We will not stand for people ripping off our IP” when asked specifically about competition like the Palm Pre, and Palm responded with a similarly-explicit “We have the tools necessary to defend ourselves.” At issue, of course, is that the Pre employs a multitouch screen and gestures almost exactly like those made famous on the iPhone — and if you’ll recall, Steve Jobs introduced multitouch on the iPhone with a slide reading “Patented!” To top it all off, the past few days have seen a number of media outlets proclaim that Apple’s been awarded a “multitouch patent” without so much as a shred of analysis, instead hyping up a supposed future conflict. That’s just not how we play it, so we enlisted Mathew Gavronski, a patent attorney in the Chicago office of Michael Best & Friedrich, to help us clear up some of the confusion and misinformation that’s out there — read on for more.

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Apple vs. Palm: the in-depth analysis originally appeared on Engadget on Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:28:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Sprint Treo Pro now on sale at Best Buy

We already knew that the Sprint-branded Treo Pro was making guest appearances at the occasional Best Buy, but thanks to a hard working web admin, you’re one step closer to owning one without having to step foot in the aforesaid store… if you’re willing to wait, that is. Palm’s CDMA Treo Pro has found itself a holding page on Best Buy’s website, and while we’re desperately hoping the $699.99 off-contract price is still subject to change (read: drop), those anxious to get in early can pre-order one as we speak. Loose estimates have it shipping in a week or two, but we noticed that the handset was go for in-store pickup in most B&M locations near us. Oh, and don’t forget the “Great Financing Offer” as you checkout — with a sticker pushing seven bills, you’ll probably need it.

[Thanks, Brian]

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Sprint Treo Pro spotted in the wild, specs and all

Thanks, Best Buy — we owe you one another. Yet again, we’re getting our first real live look at a recently unveiled Sprint handset courtesy of the big box retailer, and this time it’s the CDMA version of Palm’s Treo Pro. We’re also being blessed with a look at the specs sheet, which shows Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, 512MB of storage (300MB available to the user), a two megapixel camera (with a digital 8x zoom and video capture), removable 1,500mAh Li-ion battery good for five hours of talking, a microSDHC slot, microUSB 2.0 port, 3.5-millimeter headphone jack, WinMo 6.1 Professional, a 528MHz Qualcomm dual-core MSM7501A CPU, 320 x 320 touchscreen, EV-DO Rev. A support, 802.11b/g WiFi and built-in GPS (standalone and assisted). So, aside from the cell radio, it’s pretty much the same Treo Pro we’ve grown to know and kinda-sorta love. No price was posted, but it’s not like Sprint hasn’t already told us — have fun in the gallery below!

[Thanks, Roel]

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Will Apple Sue Palm for Ripping Off iPhone?

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Following comments in Apple’s recent earnings call, gadget bloggers and reporters are speculating that Apple could be preparing to sue Palm for copying the iPhone’s touchscreen.

"Don’t want to talk about any specific company, just making a general statement," Apple chief operating officer (and acting CEO) Tim Cook said in response to a reporter’s question about the Palm Pre, Palm’s yet-to-be-released handset. "We are ready to suit up and go against anyone. However, we will not stand for having our [intellectual property] ripped off and will use whatever weapons we have at our disposal."

Palm announced the Pre during the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. The handset features a multi-touchscreen and a slide-out keyboard. Given the multi-touch interface, it’s possible that the Pre has similarities to Apple’s patented, multi-touch iPhone interface.

Also, Palm hired former Apple engineer Jon Rubinstein as CEO prior to the Pre’s launch. Rubinstein was instrumental to the launch of the iPod—which could explain why the Pre evokes Apple’s design ethos.

Together, those facts are leading some bloggers to believe Cook’s statement suggests Palm will be the target of a lawsuit filed by Apple to protect the intellectual property of the iPhone.

And it’s not just bloggers who think that: Palm took the suggestion seriously enough to respond to it publicly.

Palm said it has a "robust product portfolio" to back its long history of innovation.

“If faced with legal action, we are confident that we have the tools necessary to defend ourselves," a Palm spokeswoman told All Things Digital.

That said, several other companies — including HTC, Hewlett-Packard, RIM, and others — have released multi-touch-enabled devices in the past year, and none so far have run afoul of Apple’s patent lawyers.

Whether the Pre becomes fodder for Apple’s notoriously aggressive IP legal team will be hard to answer until later this year, when Palm lets people actually get their hands on the phone. Until then, all we have is speculation.

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Palm: lack of microSD slot on the Pre purely a “design” decision

Palm Product Manager Matt Crowley is holding a week-long Q&A session about the Pre on Facebook, and some pretty interesting discussions are taking place. Most interestingly, so far, is Crowley’s answer when questioned about the (for many) cringe-inducing lack of a microSD slot on the company’s much-hyped device in-the-making: “Design was the highest goal on the Palm Pre project. The phone has to look and function great in the hand and up against the face on a call. The decision to include or not include expandable storage is an easy one when design is the highest priority. The physical size of the device would have been compromised if we added another physical component to Pre. Just a millimeter can seriously impact the curvature of the design in a way that minimizes the design intent. We wanted to maintain a slick curved slider design without building out too much thickness. When you look at the two parts of the product and see how thin they really are, you may be amazed that we were able to fit everything in. And yes, all the stuff does fit.” Now, we’re pretty into the design of the Pre, but this kind of strikes us as a lame answer. Regardless, you can toss your own questions into the ring until January 28th.

[Via Palm Infocenter]

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Palm responds to Apple’s veiled threat: “we have the tools necessary to defend ourselves”

We’ve been waiting for this. Ever since Tim Cook made his non-specific, veiled threats in response to a direct question about how the Palm Pre “almost directly emulates the kind of touch interface” found on the iPhone, the entire tech community has waited for the next move. Now Lynn Fox, a Palm spokesperson has stepped into the fray. In a response given to Digital Daily and presumably crafted by a team of lawyers over the 2 days since the Apple analyst call, Lynn says the following:

Palm has a long history of innovation that is reflected in our products and robust patent portfolio, and we have long been recognized for our fundamental patents in the mobile space. If faced with legal action, we are confident that we have the tools necessary to defend ourselves.

The gauntlet is thrown. Now, will Apple risk the ire of a million new and middle-aged fanboys and crush Palm’s Cinderella comeback by forcing the Pre into some state of unreleased legal limbo? Or will Rubinstein and Jobs quietly sort it out over a yoghurt parfait in some strip mall in The Valley? Oh boy, this is going to be good.

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Sprint Treo Pro officially unavailable again — for now

We’ve received official word from the good folks at Sprint that the Treo Pro wasn’t supposed to be posted today, hence the unceremonious removal of every last trace of the thing within hours of its unveiling. According to the company, the phone will be sold just as soon as it makes it through the “customary testing process,” but it’s any guess how much longer they think that’s going to take at this point. All told, it probably wasn’t the way Sprint had hoped to take the wraps off, but let’s be honest, we knew this was coming for a hot minute now — we just want the Buy link, guys. See the full statement after the break.

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Palm’s Treo Pro now on sale at Sprint for $249.99

We begged and pleaded for an official announcement back when we saw this beauty all boxed up, and comically enough, we’re still waiting for that release. Nevertheless, Sprint has quietly hosted up the long awaited CDMA Treo Pro on its webstore, giving those with an unquenchable thirst for more Windows Mobile something to lust over. For whatever reason, this thing is being priced at $249.99 with a two-year contract ($549.99 free and clear), though we get the feeling that figure will be dropping mighty quickly. Let’s just go ahead and call it the Pre effect.

Update: Looks like Sprint’s pulled the Treo Pro page from its site already, so they’re either not quite ready to hawk it yet or we’re looking at the quickest discontinuation in consumer electronics history.

[Thanks to everyone who sent this in]

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Palm announcing something at MWC next month, GSM Pre likely

Looks like Palm wants to play ball at Mobile World Congress in February, seeing how they’ve got a mysteriously password-protected site going called palmmwc2009.com — a domain name that leaves little to the imagination. There’s no telling what our new crush has in store, but if we had to guess, it’d probably be an official unveiling of the 3G GSM version of the Pre; MWC’s a European show, after all, and the CDMA version isn’t doing ’em much good over there. Either that, or they’re unveiling a WiMAX Foleo… or maybe webOS was a smokescreen for the real Nova. Do us a big favor and contribute some baseless speculation in comments, alright?

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Update: Looks like Palm’s already killed the site. Oopsie!

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Apple on smartphone competition: “if others rip off our intellectual property, we will go after them.”

For those of you who weren’t listening in to Apple’s earnings call today, you missed a prime moment of defensiveness when Tim Cook fielded a question about how the company plans to stay competitive amidst new entries from the likes of Google and, more recently, Palm. What seemed like an answer due to end with a “we’ve got some great new stuff on the way” slant, Cook dovetailed into how the company views its new smartphone competition. In his words:

Q: “There are other iPhone competitors coming to the market: Android, Palm Pre. How do you think about sustaining leadership in the face of these competitors?”

A: “It’s difficult to compare to products that are not yet in the market. iPhone has seen terrific rating from customers. Software is the key ingredient, and we believe that we are years ahead of our competitors. Having different screen sizes, different input methods, and different hardware makes things difficult for developers. We view iPhone as primarily a software platform, which is different from our competitors. We don’t mind competition, but if others rip off our intellectual property, we will go after them.”

And then the follow-up:

Q: “The Palm device seems to directly emulate the iPhone’s innovative interface. Is that what you’re referring to?”

A: “We don’t want to refer to any specific companies, so that was a general statement. We like competition because it makes us better, but we will not stand for companies infringing on our IP.”

Now, we’ve heard Apple sound off on its intellectual property before, but the way a somewhat innocuous question about new challengers in the mobile arena got turned into a not-so vague threat of legal action is a bit stunning. Could it be that the Pre is Apple’s first real multitouch, capacitive-screen competition, and the device just happened to be co-developed by Jon Rubinstein… formerly of Apple? We’re not taking any flying leaps here, but the preempted initial answer seems to suggest that the folks in Cupertino may not take every new threat so coolly.

Apple on smartphone competition: “if others rip off our intellectual property, we will go after them.” originally appeared on Engadget on Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:21:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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