UK carriers say ‘thanks but no thanks’ to the Palm Pre 2

Although the Palm Pre 2 — the first device to sport WebOS 2.0 — is set to go on sale in the United Kingdom sans SIM for £399 (that’s roughly $645) on November 12th, it looks like a lot of the major carriers will not be carrying the device. Pocket-lint personally contacted Orange, Vodafone, Three and O2 (a company which carried the Pre, Pre Plus, Pixi and Pixi Plus) and all had essentially the same thing to say: there are no plans to carry the device at this time. This isn’t great news for Palm lovers across the way, and it’s certainly not making anyone at the newly merged HP / Palm happy. Of course, none of the statements save O2’s are definitive, so we’ll keep our eyes peeled for any changes. We can always hope.

UK carriers say ‘thanks but no thanks’ to the Palm Pre 2 originally appeared on Engadget on Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:16:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Palm Pre 2 pre-orders will start November 8th, says HP

Whether called the Pre 2 or Pre Plus 2, there’s no denying that the first webOS 2.0 device is coming at us in a fast and furious fashion. Verizon docs already revealed it was on that carrier’s November roadmap, and now HP’s Facebook page for students has narrowed pre-order availability down to a specific date: November 8th. That’s next Monday, folks! No more info is available at this time, such as whether that will include the promised unlocked GSM Pre 2s or whether they would be forthcoming at a later date. Either way, we’re excited to see this 1GHz vessel sail in and bring us all that improved webOS goodness.

[Thanks, Michael]

Palm Pre 2 pre-orders will start November 8th, says HP originally appeared on Engadget on Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:39:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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HP contracts 5 or 6 new Palm devices for 2011?

Underwhelmed by the feeling of sameness with the Pre 2? Well, you may or may not be in luck; Chinese-based CENS.com is reporting that manufacturers Foxconn and Compal now have contracts to manufacturer up to six new Palm devices for 2011. That boils down to one for Compal, and either four or five for Foxconn. We’d venture a guess that PalmPad’s at least one of those, seeing as it’s due early next year, but what about the others? Whatever (stackable) cards HP / Palm have in hand aren’t exactly being laid out, and while we can’t confirm this report ourselves, rest assured, we’re hoping really hard that there’ll be more webOS options with non-pebble form factors.

HP contracts 5 or 6 new Palm devices for 2011? originally appeared on Engadget on Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:20:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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N900 can run unmodified webOS games, what can your Linux-based phone do?

Ah, standards. Palm and Nokia know what we’re talking about, which is why they support similar methods of developing native Linux apps, namely SDL 1.2. Add on the hardware similarities between the Palm Pre and the N900 (OMAP3430, PowerVR SGX, Open GL ES 2.0 support) and you have a beautiful recipe for cross-platform gaming. Some hardcore Maemo users have taken this to heart and released a new “Preenv” package for the N900 that allows the phone to run unmodified webOS games. Of course, you’ll need to root your Pre to get at those games, and if you want to make a launch icon for the game on the N900 you’ll have to root it as well. Still, this is exciting beyond the potential for playing Need for Speed on much-lauded Nokia hardware: with easy portability between platforms, there’s all the more reason for a developer to be attracted to MeeGo and webOS in the future.

[Thanks, Andy D.]

N900 can run unmodified webOS games, what can your Linux-based phone do? originally appeared on Engadget on Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:56:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Palm Pre 2 and WebOS2 Announced, Adobe Flash Supported

Palm has announced the Pre 2, along with a major update to its webOS. It will be available to buy in France this Friday on SFR and will be available in the United States (Verizon) and in Canada “in the coming months.”

Not much has changed with the hardware. In fact, from the outside, the Pre 2 is almost identical to the Pre, and it still has the slide-out QWERTY of the original. There are a few differences: The camera is now 5 megapixels, up from 3 MP, memory has jumped from 8 GB to 16 GB (although the upgraded Pre Plus already got this boost) and, well, that’s about it. You probably won’t notice the difference in your hand.

Which leaves the interesting stuff to webOS 2.0. The headline feature is “True Multitasking,” which HP and Palm say allows you to switch between apps and then go back to where you left off. This doesn’t actually look anything like “true” multitasking, which keeps the applications open and running, and even rendering unseen graphics, as happens on a PC. In fact, it looks a lot like the Android and iOS versions of multitasking, which effectively pause apps when they’re not in actual use. The presentation is different, though, with an update to the “cards” metaphor that the original webOS used to organize app windows. Now these will be sorted into stacks, grouped by task.

More useful is “Just Type.” This lets you start typing to launch apps, search the phone, send e-mail and other things (Just Type is open to third-party developers, too). If you have used a quick-launcher on your computer, like Quicksilver or Launchbar on the Mac, then you’ll be familiar with just how great this could be.

The Pre’s ability to tie into all your social networks and pull in accounts and contact details remains, only now it’s called “HP Synergy,” after Palm’s new owner.

“Exhibition” is another useful addition. It’s triggered when you stick the Pre to its pebble-like magnetic charging-dock, the Touchstone, and can be configured to show a slideshow, your day’s appointments or anything else a developer might choose to do.

There are also a whole lot of smaller tweaks, but one more thing that Palm snuck in is worth a mention: Adobe Flash. WebOS “now supports a beta of Adobe Flash Player 10.1 in the browser.” This will only work on the Pre phones, not the Pixi or Pixi Plus, and it is unclear whether it actually comes pre-installed.

Finally, you’ll have to wait for the price. SFR, the French carrier that will launch the Pre 2 this Friday, has taken down its Pre 2 page already. Google’s cache tells us that the handset will have a 1-GHz processor and 512-MB RAM, but that’s about it.

This seems a very pedestrian upgrade in a world where Android handsets grow as powerful as small computers, and the iPhone 4 has leapt ahead of its predecessor in every way. It seems that Palm is still competing with last year’s models of everything. Lets just hope that the team are putting all their time into the upcoming webOS tablets, at least.

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Palm Pre 2 coming to Verizon?

It seems like we’re getting closer and closer to the arrival of the Palm Pre 2 and webOS 2.0, and it looks like Verizon will be in the mix — we were just sent this image of Big Red’s internal VZLearn portal showing Pre 2 device training. We still don’t know when it’ll actually hit or what pricing will be like, and we don’t know if it’ll hit Sprint and AT&T as well like the OG Pre, but we’re guessing we’ll find out soon enough — keep a sharp eye, we’ll let you know.

[Thanks, Anonymous]

Palm Pre 2 coming to Verizon? originally appeared on Engadget on Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:12:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Palm Pre 2 in the wild?

Okay, now that we’ve got a bigger shot of this thing, we can definitely say that it’s neither a Pre nor a Pre Plus… so assuming it’s not some sophisticated fake, you’re feasting your eyes on Palm’s next-gen model here. Given how close it is to the model it’ll presumably be replacing, we can’t help but feel like the Pre 2 should’ve actually been the phone we call the Pre Plus today — and it should’ve launched six (or more) months ago — but in the event webOS 2.0 doesn’t come to older devices, we suppose that alone will be the impetus some current owners need to upgrade. ‘Course, the 1GHz processor should be nice, too. Hit up the source link for a few more shots of it slinking around the wild; meanwhile, we await Palm’s move on an official announce.

[Thanks to everyone who sent this in]

Palm Pre 2 in the wild? originally appeared on Engadget on Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:02:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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France’s SFR jumps gun, announces Palm Pre 2: 1GHz processor, 512MB RAM, webOS 2.0

It’s unclear if the tiny, little shot posted on French carrier SFR’s Club SFR pour Palm blog is in fact the rumored upcoming Pre 2 or just an old Pre shot, but let’s put it this way: considering that we can’t readily tell the difference, it better be an old one. At any rate, the sparse details in the blog post line up with everything we’re expecting so far, namely that the new model will use a 1GHz processor — presumably a TI OMAP3630 — and will sport a full half gig of RAM on board. Between those two spec bumps, we’d fully expect the refreshed webOS 2.0 to scream… but we won’t really know for sure until Palm gives us something to work with. In the meantime, SFR, thanks for the teaser.

Update: Check out another shot from SFR’s site after the break — it looks like they don’t have any intention to pull the news down, otherwise we have to believe they would’ve done so by now.

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France’s SFR jumps gun, announces Palm Pre 2: 1GHz processor, 512MB RAM, webOS 2.0 originally appeared on Engadget on Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:58:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Palm planning keyboard-less ‘Mansion’ with 800 x 480 screen?

This one is still very much a rumor, but PreCentral is reporting that it’s heard from a “very reliable tipster” who says that Palm is prepping a new phone codenamed “Mansion,” which may or may not be the same device that recently turned up in a certification database under the name P102. The real kicker, however, is that the phone is supposedly a touchscreen-only device, and that the screen is said to boast a fairly high 800 x 480 resolution — no word on screen size, unfortunately. Not much more than that to go on at the moment, but the “Mansion” codename itself does at least make a bit of sense — as a PreCentral commenter has noted, the Pre was originally codenamed “Castle.”

Palm planning keyboard-less ‘Mansion’ with 800 x 480 screen? originally appeared on Engadget on Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:38:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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webOS 1.4.5 for Palm Pre Plus on Verizon and AT&T finally arrives

Palm first started telling us webOS 1.4.5 was coming “soon” back in May, but after an interminable wait it looks like Pre Pluses on Verizon and AT&T are starting to get an OTA update. The release notes page on Palm’s site is currently down, but we’re looking for better PDK support, some GPS fixes, and improved gaming action. We’ll let you know as soon as we find out anything definite — but for now, let us know how it’s going on comments.

[Thanks to everyone who sent this in]

webOS 1.4.5 for Palm Pre Plus on Verizon and AT&T finally arrives originally appeared on Engadget on Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:19:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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