Palm Eos: Palm’s Tiny $99 WebOS Phone Is Super Skinny and AT&T-Bound

It looks like that blurry little blob from before is the Palm Eos, the cheap WebOS successor to the Centro. Engadget’s got the pic, and better yet, the specs for little stunner: UPDATED

It’s 10.6mm thin, measuring about 2.1 by 4.3-inches, with a 2.63-inch 320×400 res capacitive screen. And the good news for AT&T peeps: It’s quad-band GSM/HSDPA, so you guys will have your comeuppance, it seems. Update: Techcrunch adds that its codename is “Pixie” and they’re aiming for a $99 pricepoint (obviously after rebate).

And the full purported spec list is in. Here’s what Engadget’s got:

* 4GB storage
* Price: $349 (pre-rebate)
* Camera: 2 megapixel fixed focus digital camera and flash / video capture
* Connectivity: Bluetooth 2.1 w/ A2DP and EDR, USB 2.0 via micro USB
* Removable 1150 mAh battery (4 hours 3G talk time)
* Messaging: SMS, MMS (picture and video only), integrated IM client
* Contact sync with AT&T Address Book
* MediaNet
* Cellular Video
* Email: POP3, IMAP4, and EAS support
* A-GPS
* Audio: WAV, MP3, AAC, AAC+ ringtones
* Video Playback: MPEG4, H.264, H.263

Interesting that it has a bunch of AT&T services built in, if that’s really the spec list—totally different tack than the iPhone.

There are some conflicting reports as to whether Palm’s blazing ahead on it or waiting to see how the Pre does, according to Arrington. So while not 100 percent verified, obviously, with multiple independent sources leaking this thing, it’s clear there’s something along the lines of a cheaper, smaller Centro-like WebOS phone in the works, probably landing this fall. Hopefully for $99. Palm Pre what? [Engadget]

Palm going Centro for next webOS handset?

The Boy Genius Report just got ahold of this ultra-blurry shot of what purports to be Palm’s next webOS device, with a supposed fall release date and zero other info to go on. From the looks of things the keyboard is stationary, but with the relative height-to-width ratio (and last night’s “Mini-Pre” rumor) we’re thinking the keyboard and screen might be shrunk down slightly — which, were we to conjecture further, could mean a webOS Centro. Or perhaps Palm’s gone large and produced something entirely more delicious.

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Palm going Centro for next webOS handset? originally appeared on Engadget on Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:26:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Palm Pre 2 Rumors Pop Up Again

TechCrunch reports today that Palm is working on a second WebOS device, a lower-cost follow-up to the Palm Pre.

We reported this in January. At the time, a Palm insider told us that the next WebOS phone may be a lower-cost, candybar-style model without a QWERTY keyboard. No, it wouldn’t be a “Centro 2” in that it wouldn’t have the Centro form factor, but like the Centro, it would address a less expensive end of the market where Palm has been strong recently.

TechCrunch’s story says the new WebOS phone may come out just a few months after the Pre, which jibes with our information as well; we heard that the second device could appear around six months after the Pre’s launch. That said, that could change – don’t go calling an unannounced second device “late” if it doesn’t show up by the end of the year. By not announcing the device, Palm is reserving the right to change course until they’re sure of the tack they want to take.

Palm has said for a while now that they intend WebOS to be a platform that they base several phones on. They’re actually starting out with two: the Sprint Palm Pre and the GSM/UMTS Pre, which will be sold in Europe. But as WebOS replaces Palm OS in Palm’s lineup, it makes sense that they’d want both a lower cost device and a flagship model in their stable.

Palm launching smaller Pre-like device later this year says rumor-mill

As if we didn’t have enough Pre rumors to sort through, along comes TechCrunch and Mikey A. with some hard hitting stuff. According to the TC honcho, one of his “better sources” claims that Palm is “very far along” on a second webOS device which is smaller and slimmer than the Pre and may or may not have a physical keyboard. Apparently, this won’t be the iPhone 3G to the first-gen iPhone, rather a device which addresses “a different part of the market.” Details are still sketchy, but Arrington claims that the “Mini-Pre” (his name) will land sometime this year — possibly as soon as the Fall. This is all complete rumor right now, but Palm has previously said that there would be more than one webOS device, so the idea of another model in the oven doesn’t exactly come as a surprise. Stay tuned for further updates as we get them.

Palm launching smaller Pre-like device later this year says rumor-mill originally appeared on Engadget on Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:42:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Palm Releasing Smaller Pre-Like WebOS Smartphone This Year

An apparently reliable source at Palm has told TechCrunch that Palm is “very far along” on a second, smaller Pre-like device to be marketed as soon as this fall, 2009. Pre nano, anybody?

Details are scarce, but the device is rumored to be both smaller and thinner than the Pre, which may mean we’re looking at a phone with the QWERTY keyboard replaced by a soft keyboard. It is assuredly not the “Pre 2,” since it’s too soon for Palm to be this far along on that project, but it will run Palm’s ballyhooed WebOS.

The main factor here seems to be the device’s size, hence TechCrunch’s moniker “Mini-Pre.” We’ll keep you updated when and if more info comes in on this mysterious Palm project. [TechCrunch]

How Much Does the Palm Pre Cost to Make?

Palm Pre.jpgAnalyst firm iSuppli has adopted a unique niche in the world of gadget reporting: the teardown.

Taking the “unboxing” trend to the next level (and do people care about packaging material that much?) iSuppli typically buys a gadget, takes it apart, and provides a cost estimate of what it cost the assemble. The end number usually doesn’t mean too much to the average consumer, although knowing the gross margin on a product also allows guesses as to how much it can be discounted in future revisions. And that’s worth knowing.

With the Palm Pre, however, iSuppli has attempted a “virtual teardown,” basically a series of guesses as to what components are in the Pre, and how much they cost. As you might suspect, this is far less precise.

The Pre costs $137.83 in materials cost, and carries an estimated bill-of-materials cost of $170.02, which is much closer to the actual cost of manufacturing when manufacturing and software development is factored in.

At $300, that leaves about $130 in profit for Palm, although, at a subsidized price of about $200, the Pre’s expected margins will be much slimmer. And Palm also has to cross these other items off of its checklist before the Palm can be considered a hit.

Palm Pre: $138 to build according to iSuppli

With the economy in the tank (still) and the heat on, cost and profit margins are more important than ever to companies hoping to stave off the inevitable, apocalyptic doom of recession. Well, iSuppli’s released an estimated report of how much its costing Palm to cobble together the Pre — about $138, as it turns out. iSuppli has positively identified just two of the Pre’s suppliers thus far — that Texas Instruments OMAP chip, which runs Palm $11, and Qualcomm’s wireless chip — but they’ve formed a general picture of what’s under the hood for the estimate. That price is about 46 percent of the $300 iSuppli suggests Palm will be charging Sprint for the Pre (a number that’s completely unconfirmed at this point). To put it in perspective, the BlackBerry Storm costs about $203 to make and was sold for $199 initially, the G1 clocked in at $144, while the iPhone 3G costs Apple an estimated $174.33. Of course, we have no way of assessing the accuracy of the estimate yet, but if it’s in the neighborhood of correct, Palm’s profit margin should be pretty healthy.

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Palm Pre: $138 to build according to iSuppli originally appeared on Engadget on Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:49:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Rumor: Will Palm Launch Pre Day Before WWDC Keynote?

There are few things in the world we like more here at Gearlog than a gadget throwdown, and if the latest rumors about the Pre are correct, Palm is going to give us one. According to purported leaked Sprint memos, Palm is launching its eagerly awaited touchscreen smartphone on June 7th, the day before Apple’s keynote–when a newly returned Jobs is expected to launch the latest iPhone.

Who wouldn’t like to see a real good old-fashioned phone brawl–followed, perhaps by some executive arm wresting? A gadget blog can dream…

New Palm Pre WebOS Screenshots Surface

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PreThinking, the forward-looking Palm Pre dedicated blog, has been sent a fistful of new screenshots of the WebOS in full effect. The first thing that hits you is the design — these interfaces are polished and pretty. Whether this means that the Pre will be an iPhone killer (which everybody in the world but me seems to believe) or even successful enough to keep the debt-collectors from Palm’s door, remains to be seen.

As a quick fix to get your anticipatory juices flowing, though, the gallery is a good one, if a little hard to navigate. We’ve included a couple more pictures below.

Palm Pre Early SDK: New WebOS Screenshots [PreThinking. Thanks, John!]

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    Caltrain sighting suggests Palm Pre may be real

    Hard to believe, we know, but another seemingly real Pre in the wild finally has us thinking that this whole “webOS” business Palm keeps yammering about might be an actual product after all. Time will tell.

    [Thanks to everyone who sent this in]

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    Caltrain sighting suggests Palm Pre may be real originally appeared on Engadget on Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:09:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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