Palm Eos headed to Sprint as well?

Okay everyone — grain of salt goggles on? According to PhoneNews, not only is a GSM version of the Palm Eos (AKA Mini Pre, AKA Pixie, AKA Castle) coming to AT&T sometime in the near future, but Sprint will be getting its version of the Centro-like device come Q3 2009. The site claims that “sources within Sprint” have “confirmed” the launch window for a phone with specs similar to those on the device we hit yesterday, and that said device is actually in testing right now. Of course, just as we mentioned with the Eos news, this isn’t actually confirmed by anyone at Palm (or even close) right now… and you know how much the internet loves a rumor. Still, this would make a lot of sense as Sprint and Palm are all but joined at the hip, and it helps jibe some of the differing reports we / the blogosphere has heard about carriers. Obviously there’s much, much more to this story — you’ll know about it when we do.

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Palm Eos: The Successor to Palm Pre?

Palm Pre will be the first device to feature the new webOS from Palm

Palm Pre will be the first device to feature the new webOS from Palm

Palm is yet to release its much-awaited Palm Pre phone but there are already reports of another device in the works running the same operating system that Pre is based on.

A new phone from Palm called the Palm Eos is likely to debut on the AT&T network, says Engadget. Palm Eos will run webOS, the new operating system first shown on the Palm Pre earlier this year.

Palm hasn’t commented about Eos but the phone is seen as the successor to Pre. The candy bar style Eos will be slim (about 10.6 mm thick) and will have a 2.63-inch display. It will also be a quadband GSM/HSDPA phone with 4GB storage and a 2 megapixel camera.

The Eos could be priced at $349, excluding a rebate. Check out Engadget’s photo of the Eos.

Without the slide-out keyboard of the Pre, the Eos looks similar to the BlackBerry Bold.  The pre-rebate pricing on the Eos seems high for now but if Palm can work with the telecom carrier to bring that down for consumers, it may have a worthy successor to its inexpensive and successful Centro smartphone.

See also:
Palm Pre May Launch in May; Rumor Machine Goes Into Overdrive
Six  Reasons Why the Palm Pre Is Special
Palm Unveils Its Long-Awaited Smartphone, the Pre
Video: Hands-On With the Palm Pre
New WebOS Is Palm’s Secret Sauce
Up Close and Personal With the Palm Pre

Photo: Jon Snyder/Wired.com


Palm Eos: super-thin, 3G, and headed to AT&T?

Liked that blurry photo of a new Palm webOS phone we saw earlier? Well how about some specs, a name, and a better look at this thing? Enter the device above, apparently dubbed the Palm Eos (codenamed Castle… where have we seen that before?), which it seems will be the company’s proper follow-up to the Centro — a quadband GSM / HSDPA phone notably rocking the 850 / 1900 AT&T and Rogers-friendly frequencies. The phone will supposedly be an astounding 10.6mm thin, will measure just 55mm x 111mm (about 2.1 by 4.3-inches), weigh 100 grams, and will tout a 2.63-inch, 320 x 400 capacitive display. Of course, the info we’ve got right now can’t be verified, and since there are a couple of minor question marks here (like barely rounded corners in the OS), you should take it all with a grain of salt… as usual. Needless to say, we’re working on getting more details (and some confirmation), so stay tuned!

Update: Oh boy — looks like we just got the full spec list. And yes, it’s definitely coming to AT&T (if it’s really coming).

  • 4GB storage
  • Price: $349 (pre-rebate)
  • Camera: 2 megapixel fixed focus digital camera and flash / video capture
  • Connectivity: Bluetooth 2.1 w/ A2DP and EDR, USB 2.0 via micro USB
  • Removable 1150 mAh battery (4 hours 3G talk time)
  • Messaging: SMS, MMS (picture and video only), integrated IM client
  • Contact sync with AT&T Address Book
  • MediaNet
  • Cellular Video
  • Email: POP3, IMAP4, and EAS support
  • A-GPS
  • Audio: WAV, MP3, AAC, AAC+ ringtones
  • Video Playback: MPEG4, H.264, H.263

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Palm Eos: Palm’s Tiny $99 WebOS Phone Is Super Skinny and AT&T-Bound

It looks like that blurry little blob from before is the Palm Eos, the cheap WebOS successor to the Centro. Engadget’s got the pic, and better yet, the specs for little stunner: UPDATED

It’s 10.6mm thin, measuring about 2.1 by 4.3-inches, with a 2.63-inch 320×400 res capacitive screen. And the good news for AT&T peeps: It’s quad-band GSM/HSDPA, so you guys will have your comeuppance, it seems. Update: Techcrunch adds that its codename is “Pixie” and they’re aiming for a $99 pricepoint (obviously after rebate).

And the full purported spec list is in. Here’s what Engadget’s got:

* 4GB storage
* Price: $349 (pre-rebate)
* Camera: 2 megapixel fixed focus digital camera and flash / video capture
* Connectivity: Bluetooth 2.1 w/ A2DP and EDR, USB 2.0 via micro USB
* Removable 1150 mAh battery (4 hours 3G talk time)
* Messaging: SMS, MMS (picture and video only), integrated IM client
* Contact sync with AT&T Address Book
* MediaNet
* Cellular Video
* Email: POP3, IMAP4, and EAS support
* A-GPS
* Audio: WAV, MP3, AAC, AAC+ ringtones
* Video Playback: MPEG4, H.264, H.263

Interesting that it has a bunch of AT&T services built in, if that’s really the spec list—totally different tack than the iPhone.

There are some conflicting reports as to whether Palm’s blazing ahead on it or waiting to see how the Pre does, according to Arrington. So while not 100 percent verified, obviously, with multiple independent sources leaking this thing, it’s clear there’s something along the lines of a cheaper, smaller Centro-like WebOS phone in the works, probably landing this fall. Hopefully for $99. Palm Pre what? [Engadget]

Palm going Centro for next webOS handset?

The Boy Genius Report just got ahold of this ultra-blurry shot of what purports to be Palm’s next webOS device, with a supposed fall release date and zero other info to go on. From the looks of things the keyboard is stationary, but with the relative height-to-width ratio (and last night’s “Mini-Pre” rumor) we’re thinking the keyboard and screen might be shrunk down slightly — which, were we to conjecture further, could mean a webOS Centro. Or perhaps Palm’s gone large and produced something entirely more delicious.

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Palm launching smaller Pre-like device later this year says rumor-mill

As if we didn’t have enough Pre rumors to sort through, along comes TechCrunch and Mikey A. with some hard hitting stuff. According to the TC honcho, one of his “better sources” claims that Palm is “very far along” on a second webOS device which is smaller and slimmer than the Pre and may or may not have a physical keyboard. Apparently, this won’t be the iPhone 3G to the first-gen iPhone, rather a device which addresses “a different part of the market.” Details are still sketchy, but Arrington claims that the “Mini-Pre” (his name) will land sometime this year — possibly as soon as the Fall. This is all complete rumor right now, but Palm has previously said that there would be more than one webOS device, so the idea of another model in the oven doesn’t exactly come as a surprise. Stay tuned for further updates as we get them.

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Palm Releasing Smaller Pre-Like WebOS Smartphone This Year

An apparently reliable source at Palm has told TechCrunch that Palm is “very far along” on a second, smaller Pre-like device to be marketed as soon as this fall, 2009. Pre nano, anybody?

Details are scarce, but the device is rumored to be both smaller and thinner than the Pre, which may mean we’re looking at a phone with the QWERTY keyboard replaced by a soft keyboard. It is assuredly not the “Pre 2,” since it’s too soon for Palm to be this far along on that project, but it will run Palm’s ballyhooed WebOS.

The main factor here seems to be the device’s size, hence TechCrunch’s moniker “Mini-Pre.” We’ll keep you updated when and if more info comes in on this mysterious Palm project. [TechCrunch]

How Much Does the Palm Pre Cost to Make?

Palm Pre.jpgAnalyst firm iSuppli has adopted a unique niche in the world of gadget reporting: the teardown.

Taking the “unboxing” trend to the next level (and do people care about packaging material that much?) iSuppli typically buys a gadget, takes it apart, and provides a cost estimate of what it cost the assemble. The end number usually doesn’t mean too much to the average consumer, although knowing the gross margin on a product also allows guesses as to how much it can be discounted in future revisions. And that’s worth knowing.

With the Palm Pre, however, iSuppli has attempted a “virtual teardown,” basically a series of guesses as to what components are in the Pre, and how much they cost. As you might suspect, this is far less precise.

The Pre costs $137.83 in materials cost, and carries an estimated bill-of-materials cost of $170.02, which is much closer to the actual cost of manufacturing when manufacturing and software development is factored in.

At $300, that leaves about $130 in profit for Palm, although, at a subsidized price of about $200, the Pre’s expected margins will be much slimmer. And Palm also has to cross these other items off of its checklist before the Palm can be considered a hit.

Palm Pre: $138 to build according to iSuppli

With the economy in the tank (still) and the heat on, cost and profit margins are more important than ever to companies hoping to stave off the inevitable, apocalyptic doom of recession. Well, iSuppli’s released an estimated report of how much its costing Palm to cobble together the Pre — about $138, as it turns out. iSuppli has positively identified just two of the Pre’s suppliers thus far — that Texas Instruments OMAP chip, which runs Palm $11, and Qualcomm’s wireless chip — but they’ve formed a general picture of what’s under the hood for the estimate. That price is about 46 percent of the $300 iSuppli suggests Palm will be charging Sprint for the Pre (a number that’s completely unconfirmed at this point). To put it in perspective, the BlackBerry Storm costs about $203 to make and was sold for $199 initially, the G1 clocked in at $144, while the iPhone 3G costs Apple an estimated $174.33. Of course, we have no way of assessing the accuracy of the estimate yet, but if it’s in the neighborhood of correct, Palm’s profit margin should be pretty healthy.

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New webOS screenshots pop courtesy of SDK’s emulator

Odds are you’re going to have the phone to your ear nine times out of ten when this screen’s showing, but it’s still somehow interesting — nay, mesmerizing — so we’re happy to see that a recent build of Palm’s webOS emulator for developers has a polished version of the call screen included. Other goodies in PreThinking’s new gallery include options for adding Google, Facebook, and Exchange calendars, the pop-up battery / WiFi / Bluetooth status display, Google Maps shots, and a bunch of miscellany that only true Pre aficionados could appreciate (you know who you are). Follow the break for another shot — and let’s hope the next time you’re cycling through screens, it’s on a Pre of your very own.

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