Mobile Chipsets: WTF Are Atom, Tegra and Snapdragon?

Low-power processors aren’t just for netbooks: These computers-on-a-chip are going to be powering our smartphones and other diminutive gadgets in the forseeable future. So what’s the difference between the Atoms, Snapdragons and Tegras of the world?

Intel Atom
The current reigning king of low-cost, low-power processors, Intel’s Atom flat-out dominates the netbook market. Its single- and dual-core processors are also some of the most powerful on our list, despite having abilities roughly equal to, in Intel’s own terms, a 2003-2004 vintage Celeron. Based on the x86 architecture, the Atom is capable of running full versions of Windows XP, Vista (though not all that well), and 7, as well as modern Linux distros and even Hackintosh. While it requires far less power than a full-power chip, it’s still more power-hungry than the ARM-based processors on our list, requiring about 2 watts on average. That’s why netbook battery life isn’t all that much longer than that of a normal laptop.

You can find the Atom in just about every netbook, including those from HP, Dell, Asus, Acer, Sony, Toshiba, MSI, and, well, everyone else. The 1.6GHz chip is the most popular at the moment, but Intel is definitely going to keep improving and upgrading the Atom line. However, you’re unlikely to catch an Atom in a handset; it’s low-power, yes, but low-power for a notebook. Battery life on an Atom handset would be pretty atrocious, which is why Intel’s sticking to netbooks for now.

Qualcomm Snapdragon
Based on ARM, which is a 32-bit processor architecture that powers just about every mobile phone (and various other peripherals, though never desktop computers) out there, Snapdragon isn’t competing directly with the Intel Atom—it’s not capable of running full versions of Windows (only Windows Mobile and Windows CE), it’s incredibly energy-efficient (requiring less than half a watt), and is designed for always-on use. In other words, this is the evolution of the mobile computing processor. It’s got great potential: Qualcomm is trumpeting battery life stretching past 10 hours, smooth 1080p video, support for GPS, 3G, and Bluetooth, and such efficiency that a Linux-based netbook can use Snapdragon without a fan or even a heat sink. Available in single core (1GHz) or dual-core (1.5GHz), it can be used in conjunction with Android, Linux, and various mobile OSes.

Unfortunately, Qualcomm is still holding onto the notion that people want MIDs, and is championing “smartbooks,” which are essentially smartphones with netbook bodies, like Asus’s announced-then-retracted Eee with Android. Snapdragon’s got promise, but we think that promise lies in super-powered handheld devices, not even more underpowered versions of already-underpowered netbooks.

We’re frankly not sure when we’ll see Snapdragon-based devices sold in the US. We’re sure Snapdragon will end up in smartphones at some point, as at least one Toshiba handset has been tentatively announced, but the only concrete demonstrations we’ve seen have been in MIDs, and Snapdragon themselves spend all their energy touting these “smartbooks.” Snapdragon’s Windows Mobile compatibility suggests we may see it roll out with Windows Mobile 7, if Tegra hasn’t snapped up all the good handsets.

Nvidia Tegra
Nvidia’s Tegra processor is very similar to Snapdragon—both are based on ARM architecture, so both are designed for even less intense applications than the Atom. Like Snapdragon, Tegra isn’t capable of running desktop versions of Windows, so it’s primarily targeted at Android and handheld OSes, especially forthcoming versions of Windows Mobile. What sets Tegra apart from Snapdragon is the Nvidia graphics pedigree: The company claims smooth 1080p video, like Snapdragon, but also hardware-accelerated Flash video and even respectable gaming (though no, you won’t be able to run Crysis). They also go even further than Qualcomm in their battery life claim, suggesting an absolutely insane 30 hours of HD video.

While Snapdragon tends to be loosely associated with Android, Tegra is an integral part of Microsoft’s plan for next-generation Windows Mobile devices. Instead of focusing on “smartbooks” and MIDs, which we think are part of a dead-end category, Tegra’s commitment to pocketable handhelds could spell success. We’ve seen proof-of-concept demonstrations of Tegra already, but its real commercial debut will come with Windows Mobile 7—and if WM7 doesn’t suck, Tegra could take off.

Others
We haven’t included certain other processors, especially VIA’s Nano, due to intent: The Nano requires lower power than full-scale processors, but at 25 watts, it’s not even really in the same league as Atom, let alone Snapdragon or Tegra. The VIA Nano is really targeted at non-portable green technology, and looks like it’ll do a good job—it outperformed Atom in Ars Technica’s excellent test, and stands up to moderate use with ease. AMD’s Puma (Turion X2) is in a similar boat: It’s certainly markedly more energy-efficient than AMD’s other offerings, but as it’s targeted at laptops (not netbooks) with a screen size greater than 12-inches, it’s not quite right for our list here.

These low-power processors aren’t just, as we so often think, crappier versions of “real” processors. They’ve got uses far beyond netbooks, especially in the near future as the gap between netbooks and smartphones narrows.

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Netbooks Set to Get More Video and Audio Oomph

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Ever tried watching Hulu or YouTube on a netbook? If your machine didn’t crash immediately, it probably choked and struggled its way through the clip. Nvidia’s latest system-on-a-chip, Tegra, could make your next netbook a veritable video powerhouse.

“It is basically a full motherboard on a PCB (printed circuit board) the size of a pack of gum,” says Mike Rayfield, general manager of the handheld GPU, or graphics processing unit, business at Nvidia.

At the Computex trade show in Taipei, Taiwan, Nvidia said PC manufacturers such as Foxconn, Wistron, Pegatron and Mobinnova plan to release Tegra-based netbooks by the end of the year.

Tegra is the latest of several attempts by chip companies to carve out a slice of the rapidly growing netbook market, where sales are expected to nearly double to 21 million units this year from the year before.  Most netbooks run Intel’s Atom processor, which isn’t powerful enough to handle the demands of video or audio playback. Nvidia, whose GPUs are optimized for rendering video, animation and graphics, is betting it can fix that. However, to get a foothold in netbooks it will compete not only with Intel but also Qualcomm’s Snapdragon, a chipset that promises better power management, and Via’s Nano. The Nano appears in only a few netbooks but powers the Samsung NC20 to surprisingly good results in Wired.com’s review.

Tegra includes an 800-MHz ARM CPU, a high-definition video processor, an imaging processor, an audio processor and an ultralow-power GeForce GPU in a single package. The different processors can be used together or independently while consuming very little power, says the company. And devices based on Tegra could be available to consumers by the end of the year.

“This is the  most advanced ultralow-power computer on a chip,” says Rayfield. “We think it will bring the high-resolution experience we are used to on notebooks and desktop computers to netbooks and other mobile internet devices.”

Last year Nvidia launched Ion, a family of chips that aim to bring better graphics capability to low-cost computing devices. Tegra is completely different, says Dean McCarron, principal analyst at Mercury Research.

“Ion is a chipset that pairs graphics capabilities with an Intel Atom CPU,” he says. “Tegra takes the graphics core and combines it with a CPU that is not an x-86 class.”

The Tegra family will include the Tegra 650 processor, which can run Windows Embedded CE or Google Android, and the Tegra APX 2500 processor, targeted at Windows Mobile smartphones.

The idea is to make mobile devices more powerful, capable of running high-definition video, even as they improve on power efficiency, says Rayfield. The Tegra 650 can offer about 130 hours of audio processing and 30 hours of high-definition video playback.

“What we are talking about here is that with Tegra you can get 120 times longer battery life while listening to music than with the Atom processor and about 10 times more than Snapdragon,” he says.

Still, netbook makers are not likely to rush into Nvidia’s arms. Nvidia is betting the appetite for music and video will drive demand for its products but it may have underestimated the stranglehold that Intel exerts. “In the netbook market, their chances with Tegra are not great,” says McCarron. “So it is possible that we could see them emphasizing Tegra-based devices in geographies such as China that are more receptive to non x-86 architecture.”

Photo: Tegra chip/Nvidia


Mobinnova Lightweight Netbook Promises Video Thrills

mobinnova-elanTaiwanese company Mobinnova announced a new netbook that it claims is the size of a hardcover book, weighs less than 2 pounds and can offer five to ten hours of high-definition video playback.

The netbook called élan has an 8.9-inch screen and includes Nvidia’s Tegra computer-on-a-chip platform that promises to significantly boost audio and video capabilities.

“It offers 720p high-definition video playback, full Internet browsing and an impressive battery life,” said KC Kuo, chairman and CEO of Mobinnova in a statement. “It’s a real game changer.”

Tegra, targeted at cellphones and mobile internet devices, has multiple processors including a 800 MHz ARM CPU, a HD video processor, an imaging processor, an audio processor and an ultra-low power GeForce GPU in a single package, says Nvidia.

The élan netbook also includes 3G and Wi-Fi capability. But no word yet on pricing or availability.

Mobinnova Press Release

Photo: Mobinnova


NVIDIA unveils 12 Tegra devices, 25 days of music or 10 hours of 1080p video on single charge (updated)

You’ve read about it, maybe even dreamed about it in your fantasies of a Microsoft Pink smartphone drizzled with Zune media. Now we’ve got Tegra taking center stage at Computex with a dozen “mobile internet devices” powered by the Tegra processor, the “world’s smallest and lowest power computer-on-a-chip” according to NVIDIA. Of notable importance, the latest Tegra press release contradicts the Mobinnova Elan release by claiming 1080p video playback is supported by Tegra, not just 720p. Something we saw for ourselves (and had confirmed by NVIDIA) during our hands-on with the Elan.

Now, get this; NVIDIA is using the term MID unlike Intel uses MID even though the terminology is of Intel origin. Instead of referring to handheld devices for consumers, NVIDIA’s MIDs are classed as Tegra-based netbooks and tablets. In other words, the 8.9-inch Elan is a MID. Ugh.

Semantics aside, the platform is smokin’ hot with promise offering the following benefits:

  • 25 days of music or 10-hours of 1080p video playback on a single charge
  • video games play at up to 46 frames per second
  • GPU accelerated Adobe Flash animations (huzzah for Hulu!)
  • always-on processors for instant access to the network
  • 3G, WiFi, and WiMax solutions support

Great on paper, but still not available for purchase. Rest assured, we’ll be hands-on with more Tegra devices on the quick.

Update: Tegra devices are expected to land before 2009 is through, priced around $200 or less with carrier subsidies.

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Video: Tegra-based Mobinnova élan running Windows CE rocks our world

To quote our Engadget Chinese editor, Andy Yang, “Tegra really rocks!” Our team in Taipei grabbed a video of the 8.9-inch Mobinova Elan in action and came away seriously impressed. NVIDIA is really pushing the HD playback and gaming capabilities of this Tegra-based netbook smartbook machine. In fact, we saw it running a 1080p trailer as smooth as silk. Now we know what you’re thinking, Windows CE… ugh. Remember, CE (and Android for that matter) runs on the ARM-based Tegra whereas XP, Vista, and Windows 7 won’t. Besides, NVIDIA was showing a custom UI with an OS X-like application launcher along the bottom. No word on price yet or availability but we’ll update you when we’ve got more. Video after the break.

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Mobinnova élan smartbook powered by NVIDIA Tegra

Ready for the smartbook revolution? Too late, cause here they come — and the first officially-announced product we’ve got is the Mobinnova élan netbook, a NVIDIA Tegra-powered machine that weighs in at just two pounds but can pump out 720p video on its 8.9-inch screen. It’s not at all clear what OS this guy’s running, but we’re told that it has an “innovative 3D graphical user interface,” supports hardware-accelerated Flash video — which is huge freaking deal, if you ask us — has WiFi and 3G, and can play video for five to ten hours on a single charge. That’s pretty impressive, but we’ll wait to see what pricing looks like — if it’s cheaper than the sub-$300 10-inch netbooks that are starting to arrive we’d say it could be a huge winner. That’s not all for Mobinnova’s Tegra announcements either: there’s also the T8 tablet, which repackages the élan in a 10.1-inch tablet form factor with GPS and HDMI out. Definitely interesting — check the full presser after the break.

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Engadget Podcast 146 – 05.15.2009

Josh Topolsky and Paul Miller walk into a bar, but the bar is a recording studio.

The bartender, who is the recording engineer, asks, “Why the long faces?”

“Sigh,” Paul says, and looks down at his feet. “Nothing but a buncha crummy phone rumors and probably fake slim PS3 pictures this week.”

“It’s hard to podcast when there’s no exciting news to podcast about,” says Josh, staring off into the distance.

The door slams open: it’s Nilay Patel. “I know what’ll cheer you guys up!” he says as he slams three stiff drinks down on the table. “Trashing AT&T about the Slingplayer app!”

Smiles creep over Josh and Paul’s faces. They nod, the engineer hits the record button, and history is made: The Engadget Podcast, volume 146.

Update: We added a video feed of your charming hosts from the recording studio after the break. It’s definitely an experiment at this stage, so let us know what you think!

Hosts: Joshua Topolsky, Nilay Patel, Paul Miller
Producer: Trent Wolbe
Song: Around the World

00:01:42 – Wild and slim PS3 redesign caught on camera?
00:17:20 – AT&T issues official statement on SlingPlayer’s 3G blackout for iPhone
00:28:49 – Microsoft’s latest ad: iTunes and the iPod are crazy expensive
00:37:26 – Microsoft “Pink” specs leak out: Tegra, Snapdragon, OMAP 3, oh my?
00:50:57 – Fuzzy math: Palm Pre to run about $470 full retail?
01:01:29 – Hold the phone: T-Mobile G1 v2 to really be the Samsung Bigfoot?
01:06:13 – Motorola’s first Android phone to be the T-Mobile G1 v2?

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Intel’s Medfield Project May, May Not Go Into Smartphones

It’s all very wink wink, nudge nudge, hush hush, but the odor that Intel is giving off in this Fortune article about the Medfield project is that Intel’s trying to shrink x86 down to smartphones.

Intel’s roadmap looks like this: Now they have Atom, which powers many of the netbooks on the market today. Next comes Moorestown, which is supposed to be like the Atom, but house two chips and be a low-power solution that can be customizable (the 2nd chip) for whatever gadget a client shoves it into. Moorestown isn’t quite small enough for smartphones, but Intel’s saying Medfield may be, when Medfield follows up Moorestown.

There’s a lot of hinting, but not a lot of outright declaration here, so it’s not certain that Medfield may be able to fit into something the size of an iPhone or a Pre or an Android. What they are saying is that they can fit into something the size of a UMPC or a MID or a large PMP—something that Nvidia’s Tegra or Qualcomm’s Snapdragon are aiming for as well.

The timeline for Medfield is 2011ish, so there’s a while yet before anything materializes. But if Intel does somehow find a way to get their system-on-a-chip into your phones, that means bigger OSes and more laptop-like performance. We’ll see. [Fortune]

NVIDIA’s GT300 specs outed — is this the cGPU we’ve been waiting for?

NVIDIA’s been dabbling in the CPU space behind closed doors for years now, but with Intel finally making a serious push into the GPU realm, it’s about time the firm got serious with bringing the goods. BSN has it that the company’s next-generation GT300 will be fundamentally different than the GT200 — in fact, it’s being hailed as the “first truly new architecture since SIMD (Single-Instruction Multiple Data) units first appeared in graphical processors.” Beyond this, the technobabble runs deep, but the long and short of it is this: NVIDIA could be right on the cusp of delivering a single chip that can handle tasks that were typically separated for the CPU and GPU, and we needn’t tell you just how much your life could change should it become a reality. Now, if only NVIDIA would come clean and lift away some of this fog surrounding it (and the rumored GTX 380), that’d be just swell.

[Thanks, Musouka]

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NVIDIA’s Franken-Mini is half HP, half Tegra, no Intel

And now, a little visit to the “Why not?” department: NVIDIA is showing off an HP Mini 1000 at CTIA that it has totally gutted, replacing the laptop’s stock Atom-based circuitry with its own Tegra wares atop a bone-stock Windows CE build. At first the move seems counterproductive since Tegra can’t run XP or Vista, but if you look at this as the first prototype of a large Tegra-powered $99 MID, you’re thinking along the right lines. The concept isn’t indicative of any sort of partnership between NVIDIA and HP, but the chipmaker is looking at this as an opportunity to demonstrate to manufacturers how easy it is to make a device like this — and like other Tegra devices we’ve seen, this thing could easily have HDMI, run fluid 3D graphics, and generally make the world a better place at a stupid cheap price. We were also shown a Tegra single-board computer measuring no larger than a single small-outline DIMM like you’d find in a modern laptop, proof that this action can be scaled way down depending on the kinds of devices manufacturers are looking to make. Check out a video of the Franken-Mini after the break.

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