Windows 7 pre-orders begin, now (update: but not for Europe)

Tomorrow is today which makes it time to get your Windows 7 pre-order in. Amazon issued a big ‘ol press release telling us that it’s now offering the Home Premium Upgrade and Professional Upgrade packages for $49.99 and $99.99 though July 11th, while supplies last — nothing special there as it’s the standard pricing you’ll find at all your favorite on-line retailers. Amazon does promise, however, that you’ll “receive the product” when released to shops on October 22nd. Note a 3 per customer limit so don’t get greedy, ok? It’s not like Microsoft can just press the OS onto another disc or something.

Update: Reduce priced pre-orders for the UK won’t begin until July 15th with prices set at £49 for Windows 7 Home Premium E and £99 for Professional E, both will ship without Internet Explorer.

Update 2: For those wondering about the upgrade prices for Europe… there aren’t any. In the UK, the Home Premium “upgrade” is actually a full-version of the OS and will cost £80 (about $131), Professional “upgrade” will cost £190 (about $312), and Ultimate will cost £200 (about $328) until the end of the year — they’ll cost £150 ($246), £220 ($361), and £230 ($377), respectively, starting January 1, 2010. According to the BBC, Microsoft claims that it can’t offer the lower upgrade pricing ($120, $200, or $220 for Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate in the US) in order to comply with European competition regulations, a claim that EU regulators dismiss. As such, going from Vista to Windows 7 will require a clean install in the EU in order to remove Internet Explorer — no in-place upgrades will be possible according to Microsoft. Look EU, if you’re going to fine Microsoft billions for anti-competitive behavior then you have to expect this kind of tail-between-the-legs retribution, honest or not. You certainly can’t say that Microsoft is using its market dominance to push out the competition when Apple’s Snow Leopard is coming in September for a mere $29. Happy now?

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Windows 7: Cheaper Than Vista (and Every Other Windows OS)

It turns out, even if you don’t weigh in all the slightly confusing Windows 7 upgrade deals, Microsoft’s latest OS is its least expensive to date, and a real bargain compared to Vista.

Looking at full (non-upgrade) pricing of consumer Windows editions really tells the story: When you compare sticker prices, you can see that most editions hovered around the $200 mark, with a rare spike found in the $260 Vista Home Premium. When you adjust for inflation, that fairly regular pricing becomes a downward cascade—except for that Vista price hike.

The pro versions of Windows, starting with NT, tell the same story. $320 across the board, with a dip when XP Pro followed quickly on the heels of Windows 2000. But when you calculate for inflation, it’s just a smooth downward curve.

[Windows 7 Pricing: The Full Story; prices sourced from the following multiple or official locations: Washington Post, Businessweek, Microsoft, Cnet, Wired, Microsoft, CBROnline, Microsoft, Microsoft; inflation calculations made with Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI CalcSpecial thanks to Don the Intern for doing a ton of research on this!]

Windows 7 official pricing announced, limited pre-orders start tomorrow

Microsoft just laid out the Windows 7 pricing grid for us, and here’s the big takeaway: Vista and XP users will need to pony up $119.99, $199.99, or $219.99 on October 22 to score their Windows 7 Home Premium, Professional, or Ultimate upgrade, and those of you who want a full retail disc will need to roll up with $199.99, $299.99, or $319.99 respectively. It’s not quite that simple, though: starting tomorrow, June 26, you’ll be able to pre-order upgrades at much cheaper prices — $49.99 for Home Premium and $99.99 for Professional, just as we’d heard — but pre-orders will be strictly limited in number and are expected to sell out quickly. Obviously we’d prefer it if final pricing was $49 and $99 for everyone, but it’s not a bad start, especially since participating manufacturers will be offering cheap / free upgrades to 7 on new computers sold after tomorrow with Vista as well.

Oh, and don’t you worry about scoring a place in line, because we’re here to help: later today we’ll be giving away 100 codes that guarantee a pre-order spot at the discounted prices, and you’ll be able to share the code with two friends. You’ll have to act fast, though — the codes will only be valid for 48 hours. Keep your eyes peeled for our recession antidote post around noon EST, and get your clicky-fingers ready.

Update: Looks lke we’ve got our first participating manufacturer — HP machines sold after tomorrow will receive free upgrades to 7, and we’re hearing Sony will announce a similar offer soon. We’ll be keeping a full list of announcements as the day goes on, check back later for more.

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Windows 7 Pricing: Good News, Mostly

We finally received the official word on Windows 7 pricing. For the most part, people itching to upgrade immediately or buy a new Win 7 machine are in luck.

Odds are, you won’t pay the official prices, so I’m telling you the launch specials first. If you play your cards right, you’ll either get it as a free upgrade for buying a PC, or you’ll pay $50 for Win 7 Home Premium and $100 for Win 7 Professional. It’s not the $30 Mac users will pay for the Snow Leopard upgrade, but it’s a move in the right direction.

Free Upgrades
If you buy a PC starting Friday, June 26th, it should be covered under a free upgrade plan. (I say “should” because it depends on the manufacturer, but most of them are jumping on this with both feet.) Say you buy a computer with Vista Home Premium this weekend; you get a Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade on October 22, free. If you buy Vista Business, you’ll get Win 7 Professional, and if you buy Vista Ultimate, you’ll get Win 7 Ultimate. There’s no upgrade path for Home Basic (the reason is below) but as I understand it, the number of systems sold at retail with Home Basic on them are in the low single digits.

That should take care of most PC buyers.

The Half-Price Pre-Order Deal
People in the US, Canada or Japan who already own a PC running XP or Vista will be able to pre-order the upgrade disc at around half the price that they’ll eventually sell for. The pre-order deal also starts Friday, June 26th, and will run for a limited time.

As I said, Windows 7 Home Premium, usually $120, will cost $50, and Windows 7 Professional, usually $200, will cost $100. Windows 7 Ultimate is not part of this discount plan, but it might get its own incentive plan later on. (You could technically buy Home Premium upgrade, then pay to convert it to Ultimate, saving at least a little cash.) The pre-order deal will be visible at store.microsoft.com and at “most major retailers.”

What’s this about a limited time? Mike Ybarra, general manager of Windows Product Management, told me that the pre-order deal will go away when a certain undisclosed number of licenses is sold. “We have enough quantity,” he said, adding that the magic number was “equivalent to a year of Vista sales volume at retail.” (Ironically, those of you who want this upgrade offer to last have to hope that the Mojave Experiment worked, at least a little.) Some Microsoft materials suggest that July 11th might be the cutoff for the deal, but from what I understand, that’s an estimate—this is based on supply. Regardless, if you want Windows 7, pre-order the damn thing come Friday.

European Hijinks
Europe is getting kinda screwed in this deal, because of the European Commission’s banning of IE8 from any Windows installer media. Basically, starting July 15th in France, Germany and the UK, Microsoft will be selling full versions of Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional at the discounted upgrade prices, but that means there’s no way to upgrade directly from Vista.

Euros who buy Win 7 will be forced to perform a clean install, and migrate their data and apps over any way they know how. The logic is that, while the Windows team can do a clean install without IE8, there’s not enough quality assurance on what an upgrade install would be like without IE8, with assorted HTML rendering apps co-existing in the OS already. Could be messy, says Ybarra. “We don’t want to break anyone else’s software, we don’t want to break our own software, and we don’t want the customer on the phone with support.” That funky deal is supposed to run through December.

The Official Prices
So, now that we got the immediate realities out of the way, here are the “estimated retail prices” that we’ll eventually see in stores, for the people who aren’t yet moving on the upgrade offers:

Windows 7 Home Premium: $120 for upgrade; $200 for full version
Windows 7 Professional: $200 for upgrade; $300 for full version
Windows 7 Ultimate: $220 for upgrade; $320 for full version

To be clear, the term “upgrade” just means you already own and run a version of Windows on the PC you’re upgrading. It’s still a complete set of bits that you can clean install and even set up for dual booting. The “full” version is mostly for people who are building their own systems.

You may remember that there are other Win 7 SKUs such as Home Basic and Starter. Windows 7 Home Basic is not available in the United States or most of Europe though, along with residents of Burkina Faso and Vanuatu, Montenegrans will be able to buy it.

Windows 7 Starter will be offered to Dell, HP, Asus and other manufacturers to stick on netbooks. Just in case you were concerned, Windows XP will also be available, distributed and supported for 12 months after Windows 7 launches though limited to these same “small notebook PCs.” I think Microsoft—and quite a few non-vested-interests—are expecting netbooks to ditch XP for Win 7 pretty fast.

When You Actually Get It
As we’ve previously reported, October 22 is the day when almost everybody gets Windows 7. Anyone, anywhere in the world, in 35 different languages, will be able to buy a Windows 7 PC on October 22. The actual box of software will be available in most countries, covering 14 languages, on the 22nd, with the other 21 languages getting their retail boxes by October 31. It’s a damn fast rollout, especially given all of the terrain it’s going to cover.

Stay tuned, because we’re going to post more details on this pre-order business soon. In the meantime, talk amongst yourselves. Is this a good deal? Is it crap? And most importantly, are you going to pony up cash on Friday? [Windows Blog]

And don’t forget to check out our Complete Guide to Windows 7, covering all the new features, plus our experiences with the Beta and RC1 releases.

Microsoft rolls out Windows 7 packaging

We could swear we’ve seen this before, but nonetheless, Microsoft’s Windows blog has unveiled what it’s calling the official Windows 7‘s packaging — as in, this it what we’ll be seeing in stores when it launches this fall. It’s apparently 37 percent lighter and has a 50 percent better econometrics score over the Vista box, which we can’t help but draw mental parallels to the platform’s overall performance and mindshare improvements. See it for yourself in the gallery below — couldn’t hurt to get a peek now at what you’ll be picking up come October 22nd.

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Microsoft extends XP downgrade availability to 2011. When will it end?

Hold onto your hats folks, ’cause Microsoft has just done the unthinkable and extended availability of its Windows XP downgrade option, again. This latest move, of course, follows complaints that new licensing issues with Windows 7 could cause some serious headaches for businesses still hanging onto XP, and basically force them to either stock up on XP-ready systems before April 23rd, 2010 or face the possibility of Vista-only downgrades thereafter. The new deadline isn’t quite as clear cut as past ones, however, with Microsoft saying only that the XP downgrade option will be available for 18 months after the release of Windows 7, “or until the release of a Windows 7 service pack, whichever is sooner.” So, as ComputerWorld notes, if Microsoft pushes an SP1 update out the door six months after Windows 7 is released, folks could well be out of luck yet again — at least until Microsoft sets a new deadline, that is.

[Via Electronista]

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Windows 7 licensing situation a “disaster” for businesses?

Doom and gloom warnings about a new Microsoft operating system from some corners sure aren’t anything new, but it looks like a particular licensing issue with Windows 7 could well cause some serious headaches for businesses transitioning from Windows XP. As InfoWorld reports, as things stand now, businesses that buy PCs before April 23, 2010 with Windows 7 preinstalled will have the option to downgrade them to Windows XP, which will let them upgrade to Windows 7 whenever they’re finally ready to make the transition. Businesses that buy Windows 7-loaded PCs on or after April 23rd, however, will only have the option to downgrade to Windows Vista which, as Gartner analyst Michael Silver notes, is obviously of little help to XP-based organizations. Of course, Windows 7 does have its much talked about XP Mode, but Silver says that won’t help many businesses since their IT departments would still be faced with the added workload resulting from managing a whole new OS. There are, however, a few workarounds, like Microsoft’s Software Assurance Program, but those all involve an added cost, added work, or both.

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Gartner: Android on ARM “more snappy” than Windows 7 on Atom

The case for running Android — an OS developed for smartphones — on cheap, ultra-portable laptops has yet to be made. However, that hasn’t stopped manufacturers from tinkering with the idea as demonstrated by the broad range of Android “smartbooks” running on ARM-based (be it Snapdragon, Tegra, or Freescale) architectures at Computex. Now Gartner, the guiding force for many corporate CIOs, has issued a research note that puts Atom-based netbooks running Windows 7 on notice while giving credence to the emerging smartbook category of ultra-portables. Analysts Christian Heidarson and Ben Lee said the following in Gartner’s Semiconductor DQ Monday Report:

When Android did work, we found that the user interface was very snappy on relatively low-performance ARM processors, more so than Windows 7 on Atom.

Of course, Windows 7 scales much better than Vista and as a full-blown desktop OS gives users a lot of flexibility as long as the netbook’s chipset is up to the task. Then again, if you’re looking for a purpose-built, fanless 10-inch ultra-portable with integrated WWAN data and FireFox browser that costs less than $200 and plays 25 days of music or 10-hours of 1080p video off a single charge, well then a smartbook might be the device for you. We’ll see which carrier is brave enough to sell ’em come October.

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Windows 7 upgrade coupon plan gets detailed, said to be starting soon

We’ve already gotten word of a few Windows 7 upgrade plans, but it looks like things are now really starting to get fleshed out, even if nothing’s quite official just yet. According to PC World, at least some PC vendors will be kicking off a coupon program on June 26th, which will let folks that buy premium versions of Windows Vista upgrade to Windows 7 when it rolls out this fall. As you might expect, however, things won’t be completely consistent across the board, and it won’t be a free upgrade in every case either. That’s partly because vendors will reportedly have to shell out between $9 and $15 per PC to include the upgrade coupon, although at least three unnamed Taiwanese PC makers will apparently be taking a hit on that cost and offering a free upgrade coupon to anyone that buys a laptop or desktop loaded with Vista Home Premium, Ultimate or Business. HP is also said to be participating in the upgrade program, although it says it won’t be revealing any details until Microsoft itself officially announces the start date for the program.

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Atom N270 / N280-based netbooks may be stuck at Windows XP

You see, there’s not much wiggle room when it comes to netbook pricing. By and large, vendors have priced their machines about as low as they can in order to receive but a sliver of a profit, and there’s certainly no way they could eat another $20 to $30 on each unit and still feel good about themselves. To that end, we’re hearing that many companies may make their Atom N270 and Atom N280-based netbooks ineligible for the Windows 7 upgrade (from the factory, anyway), with those always-mysterious “industry sources” pointing to “increasing costs and low consumer demand.” In essence, these guys feel as if consumers will view Windows XP as sufficient for those underpowered machines, while it’ll be the Atom N450, Atom D410 and Atom D510 machines that’ll be most suited for Win7. ‘Course, we suspect you’ll be able to pony up for whatever upgrade you’d like once it’s in your hands, but we wouldn’t anticipate any handouts to suddenly be attached to existing machines.

[Via GadgetMix]

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